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Server => Support => Topic started by: Edonheart on 12 Sep 2015, 18:40:14

Title: Server Merge?
Post by: Edonheart on 12 Sep 2015, 18:40:14
Hey all, I would like to ask for more information about this server merge between Apoc and Noobstown. After reading this thread: http://www.minecraftapocalypse.com/news.html (http://www.minecraftapocalypse.com/news.html)

Members of the Apoc community are asking a lot of questions in regards to VIP, Skills, Items, Plots etc.. being transferred. A lot of members really don't want to have to start over again and we have been kinda left hanging with very little information to go on. Many members have literally stopped levelling and simply joined other servers due to the lack of information.

There hasn't been one admin join Apoc server to answer any questions, it would be nice to get some feedback from the owners as to what exactly is going to happen to our accounts when the merge takes place.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: MV3 on 12 Sep 2015, 19:12:06
The Servers and there occupants who have spent hundreds of hours playing the server Mineapoc.com may not like to see all there hard worked items be put to waste at the possibility of a RE server format and with the probability of a new map merge that has never happened since the release of both servers it wouldn't be fair to have the players of Apoc to pay the penalty of heaving Less experienced players joining the server and to the "Devs" if you want more donations Guarantee  things! Such as eleven if you were to add different items to the donation shot than E-Tokens "Which are 99.99% Useless then you may reach higher goals players are simply quitting because of the lack of content that is being put out onto the server I my self have purchased a life time mcmmo skill boost and VIP which are worth it but with the amount of bugs on the server peoples hopes are dwaining that any staff pay the least amount of care to the server!... So as i conclude I feel as tho in the best interest of both party's that the servers stay Unmerged and that the "Devs" Produce more elaborate ways to capture the players minds in different ways that would best suite the players needs instead of your own.

                    Sincerely Proposed by : Waldo_Monroe (TheOnlyLegend_)
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: cooper122 on 12 Sep 2015, 19:42:37
I agree with Waldo that a complete reset of all the work players have put into in Minapoc would be devastating. If there is no way to get around this curve of keeping stats, plots, etc, many plays may drop for good. Some way to either move over some stuff like stats. Also if stats cannot be changed use the prestige system, yet buff it a bit since it would not be a choice anymore. Please just don't let us down, make it enjoyable for all

Thanks for making so many memories, gonna miss the old mineapoc
~ Cooper122
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: Edonheart on 12 Sep 2015, 20:04:25
Don't get me wrong, I think a merge could be healthy to both communities in the long run. I just don't want to see one community getting priority over the other and like I said, there's been no real important information about our accounts.
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: MV3 on 12 Sep 2015, 20:13:46
I understand the lack of effort to the server Mineapoc.com although (Apocalypse VIP players will be given free Noobscraft.com status and all returning players to the new system will be rewarded/given a perk/advantage in the new system. Apocalypse will be moving to a brand new version/re branding which means the data will not be copied over as the new system will not use the same features. If you have any questions, please go to Noobscraft.com and the support part of the forum and I'll try my best to answer any questions/concerns. Do not speak to Noobstown staff, they cannot help you regarding Apocalypse related questions / Use the forum!) is  tad over the top directed at the players Moral challenges aroused by the possibility of losing everything you've worked for during a almost 3 year time period! And please if your a fan of THE Apocalypse! Help save the server... Its not worth a re run if you think it is then you need to take in to account the players... more importantly the ones who have played the most....
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: Foob on 12 Sep 2015, 20:38:11
Hi guys,

The reason for the merge is that due to real life commitments I cannot continue to run two communities anymore, I have tried to bring content to Apoc, but the time those things take to put together are just not viable anymore without letting the other server die out. I can't win in this situation as I do not have enough time to give to create content to please both communities, the easier way for me to please both communities is merging the two into one larger, manageable community. This is the solution we're taking instead of shutting off Apocalypse completely. I understand you're upset about lost data, but that's what usually happens in Version changes and Apocalypse is well overdue on that front, with 3 years of the same data. The server has balance issues, economy issues, outdated features/plugins that developers have given up on that we can no longer maintain and lots of things that the Elven update won't fix long term. We're offering something brand new, a great solution for both communities that will be a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: MV3 on 12 Sep 2015, 20:46:36
regarding apoc you are right about many things and i think what we were trying to get across-ed was that we didn't want much of the servers native theme to be changed! although thank you for considering the communities response!
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: Foob on 12 Sep 2015, 20:57:23
regarding apoc you are right about many things and i think what we were trying to get across-ed was that we didn't want much of the servers native theme to be changed! although thank you for considering the communities response!

The theme is not changing from an 'Apocalypse', we're making it a completely separate identity to the actual core game mode of Noobstown but both communities will have access to each other/rewards will be interchangeable. So that means when we update Noobstown you guys can enjoy the stuff there, and when we update Dungeons the Noobstown people can play that too. It's the best of both worlds but completely optional what you decide to play.
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: Edonheart on 12 Sep 2015, 21:03:14
Hi guys,

The reason for the merge is that due to real life commitments I cannot continue to run two communities anymore, I have tried to bring content to Apoc, but the time those things take to put together are just not viable anymore without letting the other server die out. I can't win in this situation as I do not have enough time to give to create content to please both communities, the easier way for me to please both communities is merging the two into one larger, manageable community. This is the solution we're taking instead of shutting off Apocalypse completely. I understand you're upset about lost data, but that's what usually happens in Version changes and Apocalypse is well overdue on that front, with 3 years of the same data. The server has balance issues, economy issues, outdated features/plugins that developers have given up on that we can no longer maintain and lots of things that the Elven update won't fix long term. We're offering something brand new, a great solution for both communities that will be a lot of fun.

Thanks for your response Foob, my follow-up question is. Will we keep our boost and VIP we bought?

Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: Foob on 12 Sep 2015, 21:19:45
Thanks for your response Foob, my follow-up question is. Will we keep our boost and VIP we bought?

Yes, VIP players will keep their VIP and any boosts associated.
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: Edonheart on 12 Sep 2015, 21:21:59
Yes, VIP players will keep their VIP and any boosts associated.

Awesome.

Thanks.

I take it our plots will be lost too?
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: cooper122 on 12 Sep 2015, 21:24:19
With the prestige system that was mentioned on the Elven update, will that be guild lines to the new Apoc/Noobstown merge?
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: Foob on 12 Sep 2015, 21:31:00
With the prestige system that was mentioned on the Elven update, will that be guild lines to the new Apoc/Noobstown merge?

Yes. there will be a build in prestige system / ranking / high scores and time trails on running dungeons the fastest / teams and guilds.
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: Foob on 12 Sep 2015, 21:34:53
Awesome.

Thanks.

I take it our plots will be lost too?

Plots too, yes. Noobstown will be used for the plot/building side of things as I said you can bring your rewards etc back and forth from the Dungeons system to Noobstown but you don't have to if you choose not to.
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: itisnotyou on 12 Sep 2015, 21:34:59
Perhaps the mineapoc players could receive some tokens for their skills/money/belongings. Just like what happened when we switched from v5 to v6?
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: Foob on 12 Sep 2015, 21:38:15
Perhaps the mineapoc players could receive some tokens for their skills/money/belongings. Just like what happened when we switched from v5 to v6?

Read here - http://www.minecraftapocalypse.com/news.html (http://www.minecraftapocalypse.com/news.html)

They will! :)
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: cooper122 on 12 Sep 2015, 21:41:52
Last bit, lots of mineapocs players could change their names on mineapoc no problem, so now for exsample I cannot get on noobstown, what then?
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: Foob on 12 Sep 2015, 22:51:40
Last bit, lots of mineapocs players could change their names on mineapoc no problem, so now for exsample I cannot get on noobstown, what then?

Name changing will be sorted for the relaunch.
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: AJ_Andy on 13 Sep 2015, 01:26:30
Name changing will be sorted for the relaunch.

Foob, what about those who donated for armour and/or VIP. If we lost our armour is that it? Or do we get armour/ another perk in the new dungeons?
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: decanorthport on 13 Sep 2015, 01:38:10
Wait, so the prestige system goes for mineapoc's power levels as well? I had ~16k power level in mcmmo, which was beyond the 'deity' prestige.
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: DrewG2001 on 13 Sep 2015, 05:15:41
Quite a while ago(mineapocs last birthday I think),  among things dropped were alpha testing tickets.  Is there a list of them somewhere and are they still valid?

Thanks
-Drew
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: Foob on 13 Sep 2015, 15:18:52
Quite a while ago(mineapocs last birthday I think),  among things dropped were alpha testing tickets.  Is there a list of them somewhere and are they still valid?

Thanks
-Drew

Still have the list, still valid
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: Foob on 13 Sep 2015, 15:19:47
Wait, so the prestige system goes for mineapoc's power levels as well? I had ~16k power level in mcmmo, which was beyond the 'deity' prestige.

No, mcmmo won't be used in the new system but there are ways to prestige in the new system. We may bump people up a free prestige for having high mcmmo in current version as stated in the perks/rewards/boost section of the rewards.
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: Foob on 13 Sep 2015, 15:20:17
Foob, what about those who donated for armour and/or VIP. If we lost our armour is that it? Or do we get armour/ another perk in the new dungeons?

There will be rewards/perks for VIP players.
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: pidgeot72 on 13 Sep 2015, 16:55:50
Will the merge happen during v6 or later versions? Also will the servers actually merge or will it just be a hub?
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: lovablebunny224 on 13 Sep 2015, 17:53:38
So both Noobstown people and Apoc will be able to go back and forth between the two game types?
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: Foob on 13 Sep 2015, 18:29:26
So both Noobstown people and Apoc will be able to go back and forth between the two game types?

Yes.
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: Foob on 13 Sep 2015, 18:32:10
Will the merge happen during v6 or later versions? Also will the servers actually merge or will it just be a hub?

The servers will merge in terms of community/players coming together but there will still be two separate machines, this will happen during v6. No, it won't be a hub/mini game will be a dedicated game mode you can switch in and out of and be rewarded on both servers. The system is called 'Dungeons' or 'Noobstown Dungeons' so it's part of the whole package over here but it's essentially Apocalypse theme/features/gameplay.
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: llamalover224466 on 13 Sep 2015, 18:40:46
Whats the timeline on the server merge ? I know that some people on the server have been wondering if its the last day or if they have a couple weeks left to play, level and exchange their money.
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: Foob on 13 Sep 2015, 19:48:01
Whats the timeline on the server merge ? I know that some people on the server have been wondering if its the last day or if they have a couple weeks left to play, level and exchange their money.

Months, this will take a long time.
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: theDalekSupreme on 13 Sep 2015, 19:54:54
The servers will merge in terms of community/players coming together but there will still be two separate machines, this will happen during v6. No, it won't be a hub/mini game will be a dedicated game mode you can switch in and out of and be rewarded on both servers. The system is called 'Dungeons' or 'Noobstown Dungeons' so it's part of the whole package over here but it's essentially Apocalypse theme/features/gameplay.
So Mineapoc will become like a Noobstown world such as Nether/Mine/Towny that has seperate permissions and such from other worlds? Or am I misunderstanding?
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: DrewG2001 on 13 Sep 2015, 20:11:48
This is a full restart besides boosts/vip then?  (We Don't keep /chests)?
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: cooper122 on 14 Sep 2015, 00:46:14
So is there going to be Mcmmos in Dungeons?
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: Foob on 14 Sep 2015, 01:42:13
So Mineapoc will become like a Noobstown world such as Nether/Mine/Towny that has seperate permissions and such from other worlds? Or am I misunderstanding?

No, Noobstown will have access to the new dungeons system which is like a brand new Mineapoc and Mineapoc players will have access to play Noobstown.com as it is now, and their new dungeons gamemode.
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: Foob on 14 Sep 2015, 01:42:32
So is there going to be Mcmmos in Dungeons?

No Mcmmo
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: Foob on 14 Sep 2015, 01:43:44
This is a full restart besides boosts/vip then?  (We Don't keep /chests)?

No /chests items will be copied over. Items won't work the same as they do in the current Apoc.
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: cooper122 on 14 Sep 2015, 22:29:26
How many /chest will be moved over to dungeons? Also will money be transported over?

To put it all all together
No mcmmo
Mineapoc resetting
/chest is kept with items
Plots from mineapoc gone
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: Foob on 15 Sep 2015, 00:19:23
How many /chest will be moved over to dungeons? Also will money be transported over?

To put it all all together
No mcmmo
Mineapoc resetting
/chest is kept with items
Plots from mineapoc gone

No /chests - There will be an entirely new mechanic for armour/stats/power. Literally the only data copied over is played who have VIP rank.
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: cooper122 on 15 Sep 2015, 00:43:59
I have heard of a way to exchange items from mineapoc to Noobstown, such as diamond blocks for small amounts of money. Is this going to be a thing?
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: Foob on 15 Sep 2015, 01:29:11
I have heard of a way to exchange items from mineapoc to Noobstown, such as diamond blocks for small amounts of money. Is this going to be a thing?

No. There will be rewards for people who achieve high mcmmo/money on the current Apoc as stated on the Mineapoc.com news page.

There will be no economy coming from Mineapoc to Noobstown. The new Mineapoc works on a unlock/perk based system, rather than an economy/trading armour etc. it'll be completely different therefore items/money are kinda pointless.
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: llamalover224466 on 17 Sep 2015, 23:06:35
Is there possibly a way to put a exchange for diamond blocks on Apoc ?
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: crashb4 on 18 Sep 2015, 18:00:53
Will apoc vip get vip or vip+ on noobstown?
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: Foob on 19 Sep 2015, 00:46:28
Is there possibly a way to put a exchange for diamond blocks on Apoc ?

Hi, I'm going to look into some exchanges soon for items to money.
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: llamalover224466 on 3 Oct 2015, 17:13:08
When will VIPs on Apoc get there VIP on Noobstown ? I know that some VIPs on apoc have stopped playing because off the merge and would start playing more Noobstown sooner if they got there VIP sooner rather then later.
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: dbernardaye on 10 Oct 2015, 18:46:41
So, regarding the merge, what about people who bought In-Game items on Apoc such as Golden Keys. I myself have bought some, hoping the Golden Crates would be fixed, but unfortunately, they haven't. Do players get a sort of compensation for the item loss, because the items on Apoc will be deleted during the merge? Or what?
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: dbernardaye on 11 Oct 2015, 21:44:30
Also, I forgot to mention, do we get some sort of exchange system for the items we have on Apoc? Like, do we sell them on Apoc to get rewards on Noobstown? Or do we get a compensation with the items we get without selling it? I'm in between selling my items, but I'm not sure if I should do it.
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: Powerage_ on 12 Oct 2015, 02:54:30
When is the server merge going to come out?
Title: Re: Server Merge?
Post by: NiConcussions on 5 Dec 2015, 02:31:22
No. There will be rewards for people who achieve high mcmmo/money on the current Apoc as stated on the Mineapoc.com news page.

There will be no economy coming from Mineapoc to Noobstown. The new Mineapoc works on a unlock/perk based system, rather than an economy/trading armour etc. it'll be completely different therefore items/money are kinda pointless.

How high of skill/money are we talking? Its near impossible to actually get things done anymore with the server being in the state its in, no offense. Not to drive a point home but the top players are basically /mctop in everything, and most have quit Minecraft all together as far as I'm aware. I mean I have like 2.2 Million there and I'm 75th ranked on the server for /mcstats. So does that not mean anything for the new system? Nothing will come over? You also said that exchanges would be coming soon to Apoc and I was wondering if there actually were. Hated to bump an old thread but I had questions.