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mrfloris

Fishy fishy! /fishing fisherman
« on: 10 May 2018, 00:58:34 »
How to Fish like King

Hey everybody, this is the king of the sea sp.. wait, that sounds weird.

After ranking up to position one in /mctop fishing, and basically staying there for the bigger part of version 6 of Noobstown, I thought it would be nice to share my tips and tricks to help others better understand the /fishing ability on Noobstown.

Here they use a plugin called mcMMO, giving you /mcstats, /mcrank, /mctop, and /<skillname>. In this thread we're focusing on the skillname: fishing.

The commands relevant to grinding fishing the legit way with friends, and how to max this out in a grinding party are the following.

/mcstats
This mcMMO command tells you your personal stats as they are right now. You level up in fishing, then /mcstats will show the new level, also, your skill levels combined will accumulate in the Power Level at the top, which helps you rank as an RPG player on the server.

/fishing
The fishing command tells you the current status and additional information about the skill fishing. Here you can tell how many exp you need per level, how far in you are, what is unlocked / locked, and some explanations as to what each things means.

Once you type /fishing, there's also a scoreboard on the right side of the screen, this will tell you a compact overview of the most interesting information about the fishing skill you're actively working on. It will time out. But we can fix that.

/mcsb keep
This is an extra command that is short for 'mcMMO scoreboard' with a variable 'keep', once you type /mcsb keep, your scoreboard on the right side of the screen will stay. Very handy.

/mctop fishing
This is the rank command for the top players, typing this will show you the top 10 players and their fishing levels. Note that you might not (yet) be on this page. Your rank might be 100 or 12 or 5000. You can paginate through this with: /mctop fishing 2, or /mctop fishing 15.

This is super handy to find out where you stand, what next level (your competition I guess) you're aiming for, and how far ahead or behind you are of your next goal.

/party
We have a global party for the Saddle Alliance, the towns Middle Earth, LunarFalls, IceHaven, and town x have come together in one single /party, this is a public party. Just ask a friend to get an invite if you're not it already. The more people are in the same party, and fishing together: the more bonus and mcMMO exp you're sharing.

In the /party, typed on it's own, you can see who's part of the party (in grey), who's active (in white), and who's nearby (straight up text, versus cursive text).  The party leader is in orange by the way. Anyway, you want to be in a party, because you get a bonus, grinding any mcMMO skill as a group benefits everybody in the group.

The bonus explained: There are up to 5 levels, basically. Once the party is unlocked at party-level 50, the party king can turn on equal exp share. This means if we're both fishing, we both give eachother a bit of our fishing mcMMO exp. And we get a tiny bonus for this. Level up to 3 people, a higher percentage bonus. 4 even more, and 5+ is the highest party bonus level.

Party grind with 5+ people on mcMMO skills 'nearby each other', and you all get the most bonus from that skill.

Nearby explained: Active party members who are online and within 75 blocks from eachother will show in white upright (not cursive) in /party, and those are sharing exp and bonus.

Okay, let's move on to the tricks and tips of fishing:

You need a fishing rod, duh, but you can put mending and unbreaking on it. The durability is super low on a fishing rod, so a tiny bit of exp orbs on it and mending fixes it up 100% Super awesome.

Other enchants on the fishing rod:
Lure and Luck fo the Sea. And you want these. Why? Because Lure means that fish will be showing up faster, and that's what you want. Someone else does not have lure or a low level lure, and they get one or two fish, in the same time you get four or five, so that's pretty awesome. Lure III (3) is the max, so get that. It's a mandatory enchant to have, in my opinion.
Okay, the other skill is Luck of the Sea, this can go to III (3) as well. Max it out, because while luck of the sea might come with a couple of negatives, it comes with a mcMMO bonus built in. You get a bit of extra exp each time you fish up treasure. Luck of the sea means you have an increased chance of fishing up treasure.

Not only do you get awesome items, you can use for a few things, you will be going up in your fishing level a bit faster. Maybe this is not mandatory, but a smart fisherman will certainly have a maxed out fishing rod to level up fast.

The negatives by the way are a chance of fishing up poison and tnt. Both don't have to kill you, but together with other angry mobs perhaps shooting you when your hearts are down.. yeah, it's risky. So be awake when you fish, no afk fishing, no cheating, no mods, play fair. And you will have no problem avoiding poison and tnt.

Pro tip: Sometimes you can find that special spot on a slab or an edge of a block and the poison and tnt drops right in front of you in the water. Fantastic, no harm to you-basically. Over time you will get more experienced with this. My tip is: if you spot this happening: Do NOT move, you're in the perfect spot, it will always fall in front of you and never hurt you. (aw yeah).

Treasures are important too. While you are fishing you can catch treasure. With Luck of the Sea enchanted rods you will get more treasure. This is blargh quality stuff at low levels, but it will improve over time. There are certain levels you can hit to get iron, even diamond. But not just that, it's a great way to fish up enchanted items.

mcMMO comes with repair and salvage skills as well, including smelting and many others. But while you're fishing you can not just get items, exp orbs, treasure, mcMMO exp, you can also increase your salvage and smelting levels, while you're fishing and repairing.

Pro tip: Make sure you have an iron block and gold block nearby, as well as a furnace. And three types of chests. One chest for burnable items you can use as fuel with a hopper going into the furnace on the side, one chest at the top of the furnace with a hopper going into the furnace, so the items that you can melt/burn can go in there. Don't auto-take the items out at the bottom, this way you can organize it as well as get the exp, you want exp; to fix your mending.

Don't I get exp from fishing? No, not until a certain level (I believe it's 150).

Back to the pro tip. Ok, when you get items you can't melt burn or whatever, they go in the third chest. This way you can end up with the items to repair things, things you fish up. So go repair those broken items, and perhaps then salvage them. Salvage will eventually give you more of it, and smelting goes towards mining level by the way. And the enchant might pop off the silly blargh items you fish up, but you can then use those enchants on better tools at home.

I hope you understand what I am trying to say with that long pro tip: Use what you get from fishing to the max, little effort, most output, your fishing, salvage, repair, mining, etc .. it will all go up. It's really not just about fishing.

Ok, back to the fishing rod, nope that's it. You're done. How to fish with it I will address in a little bit.

Next: More fishies, more! It's so slow!

Yep, it's slow, fishing is one of those boring skills. That's why being in a /party is not just good to get a bonus, but while you're waiting for your fish, you can get exp from other party members as they reel in their fish. And, you're in a party! There are people around to talk with and you can play music disks you fish up, help repair and salvage, and all that stuff.

Pro tip: Suck up to the player with high repair and salvage that you can trust, so they can do this for you. The benefits of their high levels will benefit you.

To increase fishing it's all about location, and this is both biome location as well as what's surrounding you.

Do not have anything above you. Once you found the right spot: Have nothing but air above you. Nothing crazy, no lava below the water, no soulsand beneath it, etc. Just plain old water you fish from, with nothing but air above it. Obstruction prevents the speed of fish (swimming) and appearing. Don't sit in a hut with a roof, or a tree hanging over the fishing bobber, etc. I mean it!

Okay, the spot: Don't fish on land, HA! Yeah, just seeing if you're still paying attention. Fish in water, you could fish in a single block, but fish in a clear open space in a river biome. This way you can see the fish coming in and pay enough attention to not miss it. And a river biome. And here's a Master Angler tip: These tricks all stack.

Do you get more fish with nothing but air blocks above you versus obstruction? yes!
Do you get more fish in a river or ocean biome (bite chance after level 125)? yes!

Pro tip: Since things stack, you can sit in a boat and increase bite chance even more as a master angler .. so yes, sitting in a boat helps too: yes!

Going from 0.2 % to 0.8 % helps you, .. Multiply that by 5+ /party people,.. you get the drift. A fishing grind can be pretty awesome.

But I am not even near level 125, 150, etc.. I don't know if this is even the case on noobstown: Trust me, when we go fishing, just come fishing with us and you will get 50 levels at least, stick around and we double this together. Do that for another hour after a break and you're at 150 and you can max out your fishing and climb to the top100 top50, top25, .. top10 .. in no time.

Pro tip: Do a /fishing grind /party together with 5+ friends when the server has an event like a double xp mcmmo rate or better.

And even if you're levels are too low, there's no reason to leave the area because you're not that high yet. While you're helping higher leveled players, their higher levels are helping you climb faster.

Everything's nerfed!

Yes, welcome to noobstown, over the last 7 years they've learned how mcMMO works, how regular active players are making the most of it, and how malicious players are cheating. So they've decided to nerf the hell out of most skills on noobstown servers. It's just how it is. That's why taking benefit of the best situation helps everybody and not just that, it builds community and friendships as we grind away those fishy fish levels.

So get a fishing rod, enchant it properly, ask us where the fishing grind area is, make sure it's a river or ocean biome, feel free to optionally sit in a boat if you want. Take your breaks in between rainy clouds, and fish when it rains. Of course, make sure not only part of /party, but also nearby the others so we all share.

I think what you're telling me is wrong, blah blah.

Okay, well, you're not ranked one in fishing right now, that said - things DO chance. The plugin can change, the way it's setup on noobstown can change, a new version of minecraft can change things.

For example: Personally I do not know with the custom world if mcMMO takes the Currently looking biome or the OLD original seed biome. You can be in the Wilderness world and have a pool in the desert, then with F3 check what biome it says and it could be an icey ocean biome. The mining world however is a vanilla world and a river looking biome actually says it's a river biome. So I am going to stick to that what feels a bit more of a guarantee. An admin is more than happy to clarify these things.

Does sitting in a boat really give more of this or that?
It seems like it, but feel free to fish for an hour with it and write down the numbers and then an hour without it and write down the numbers, do the math and we know for certain. Part of what I shared here is from the official mcMMO wiki, while other things I mentioned are from my own experience. Either way: it got me, and my dedication to be and remain ranked one in this skill, to be at that level.

Let's go fishing!
« Last Edit: 10 May 2018, 01:02:21 by mrfloris »

Panemophobic

Re: Fishy fishy! /fishing fisherman
« Reply #1 on: 10 May 2018, 01:12:55 »
Pro tip: Suck up to the player with high repair and salvage that you can trust, so they can do this for you. The benefits of their high levels will benefit you.
AKA you :D

I actually didn't know about the oceans giving better fish.

And fishing is one of the few skills I grind (which are mining, excavation, wood cutting, archery, and fishing)
« Last Edit: 10 May 2018, 01:50:09 by Diamondpuppy808 »

KilljoyDivine

Re: Fishy fishy! /fishing fisherman
« Reply #2 on: 10 May 2018, 01:17:40 »
I was under the impression that River biome gives the best bite chance? Interesting!

mrfloris

Re: Fishy fishy! /fishing fisherman
« Reply #3 on: 10 May 2018, 02:31:03 »
AKA you :D

I actually didn't know about the oceans giving better fish.

And fishing is one of the few skills I grind (which are mining, excavation, wood cutting, archery, and fishing)
I might be confusing a few things here by memory, I'd have to double check the wiki I guess to see if it is an increased master angler bite chance or faster fish coming chance .. probably the 0.2 bite chance increase to 0.4, and then in a boat, 0.6, ..i believe that stuff stacks.

mrfloris

Re: Fishy fishy! /fishing fisherman
« Reply #4 on: 10 May 2018, 02:33:46 »
Update,

We have a fishing area picked now, it's in Towny, the F3 and visually shows it's a River, and fishing so far goes pretty regular as everywhere else, and exp is doing great. We invested 250,000 nbz to buy some chunks and are setting it up on Thursday, so we can do some fishing hours Friday to Monday and have a fun weekend with everybody.

If anybody wants to donate to help cover the costs, they're free to /money send mrfloris something, or killjoy, we kinda split the cost today.

We have a few surprises for those who participate, but I rather not disclose too much right now :)

s1/dxe
s2/spiFisPrz
s3/donCh

mrfloris

Re: Fishy fishy! /fishing fisherman
« Reply #5 on: 10 May 2018, 08:46:34 »
Update:

I mentioned a few surprised, the first one is done. The area will have a little secret nearby with donation chests so people who participated and have items they want to give back to the towns they can find this secret and explore it, and put the items in the donation chests. Tip: Put your name on an item as well, so we know who helped out ;)

mrfloris

Re: Fishy fishy! /fishing fisherman
« Reply #6 on: 10 May 2018, 21:36:47 »
Update:

The second one is done too, a little area to discover where you can explore something pretty while you use the public furnaces to melt down your items. Handy if you want to take a 3 minute break from fishing grind.

So that covers s3..



Special update; breaking news!

s1/dxe We've just heard that we might indeed get a double exp event this weekend. So get those fishing rods ready and come enjoy the area this weekend and help eachother get some fun items, (maybe another surprise) and have a party as a community. Bring your friends. Seriously, invite your friends on twitter/facebook/whatsapp and help grow this fun gameplay event (don't spam!).

« Last Edit: 10 May 2018, 21:47:41 by mrfloris »

mrfloris

Re: Fishy fishy! /fishing fisherman
« Reply #7 on: 11 May 2018, 20:48:38 »
Update:

One of the other surprises is to return to the community. If you come fish with us, we come with spoils and loot.

ALL THE PHAT L00T



We might have a few shulker loot boxes with unknown items, ranging from dirt to some ph4t l00t y0.

We have hidden treasure chests where they might end up in, or on the global /ah market, they might just randomly be thrown without any warning into the water for others to fish up. So come fish, pay attention, enjoy double xp, and who knows.. you might just go home with a bit more than a fish.

Additionally, there will be daily items on the /ah market that are either overly expensive, or overly cheap. Meaning you might just walk away with the old admin-head for just $1. Who knows..

It's worth being an active player this weekend and especially those who participate in the event.

Note please that if we announce something special it might just be in /ch l (local chat channel), so fisherman nearby will get a headsup on what gets dropped, sold for cheap, or what's coming next.


Hey, it's Friday, almost the weekend :)

Panemophobic

Re: Fishy fishy! /fishing fisherman
« Reply #8 on: 11 May 2018, 21:25:09 »
Update:

One of the other surprises is to return to the community. If you come fish with us, we come with spoils and loot.

ALL THE PHAT L00T



We might have a few shulker loot boxes with unknown items, ranging from dirt to some ph4t l00t y0.

We have hidden treasure chests where they might end up in, or on the global /ah market, they might just randomly be thrown without any warning into the water for others to fish up. So come fish, pay attention, enjoy double xp, and who knows.. you might just go home with a bit more than a fish.

Additionally, there will be daily items on the /ah market that are either overly expensive, or overly cheap. Meaning you might just walk away with the old admin-head for just $1. Who knows..

It's worth being an active player this weekend and especially those who participate in the event.

Note please that if we announce something special it might just be in /ch l (local chat channel), so fisherman nearby will get a headsup on what gets dropped, sold for cheap, or what's coming next.


Hey, it's Friday, almost the weekend :)
*phew* Just checked my irl schedule, I've  got nothing to do Saturday.


I WANT DAT PHAT LOOT!!!
« Last Edit: 11 May 2018, 21:45:56 by Diamondpuppy808 »

mrfloris

Re: Fishy fishy! /fishing fisherman
« Reply #9 on: 11 May 2018, 23:03:57 »
Update:

Double XP has started. Welcome to the #weekend

mrfloris

Re: Fishy fishy! /fishing fisherman
« Reply #10 on: 12 May 2018, 00:26:25 »
Important live update !!

beep beep beep -- beep beep beep

The Fishing Event starts in 30 minutes of this post

If you join the game and see it has started, you're free to participate :) Just get a fishing rod and join in on the fun.

30 minutes and counting, see you guys soon :)

mrfloris

Re: Fishy fishy! /fishing fisherman
« Reply #11 on: 12 May 2018, 02:44:49 »
The event is now over by the way, at least for Friday. We had loads of fun.

We started training with 5+ people online. Killjoy joined and we had 12+ people there to play mc with. That sounded like it was time to announce it and get the party started.



The last surprise! A special guest appearance from an Elder Administrator! And one of the original owners: fatnoob!



Foob joined us and fished with us for a while. Super awesome. Thank you for doing that :) And not just you: everybody!
I had a blast playing with Macadam, countdown, Edix, Killjoy, Kathy, Warrior, suddenrose... i can go on. Loads of people showed up.

And I took that opportunity to give little rewards for leveling up fishing - well some people. The rest were hunting secret areas and treasure chests. Some people got small loots, others got money. And a couple of people got some phat loot boxes with more than 50k worth of items in them, .. not to mention one lucky mrotto who scored himself the 250k voucher.

Oh yeah, we also caught some fish.

But maybe I also got distracted dropping diamonds, and unique heads, rare and common fishing loot, as well as shooting off fireworks. Mmm I might have to admit, maybe I took a little boat ride with Foob for old times sake.




Hopefully on Saturday we have killjoy online, 12+ people again, and double exp is still on. Because I feel like fishing!

mrfloris

Re: Fishy fishy! /fishing fisherman
« Reply #12 on: 12 May 2018, 02:51:51 »
A couple more :) For nostalgia reasons..











(tnx killjoy for providing these)

Panemophobic

Re: Fishy fishy! /fishing fisherman
« Reply #13 on: 12 May 2018, 04:41:44 »
Hopefully on Saturday we can SMASH that record of twenty people :D

mrfloris

Re: Fishy fishy! /fishing fisherman
« Reply #14 on: 12 May 2018, 23:15:35 »
Update: It's Saturday night, and that means another chance to get some fishing levels as a group.

Missed it last night? Join us tonight around 8 or 9 pm New york time. that's about 1 or 2 am in the UK.

Were you there last night? Awesome, maybe join us again and now you know what you can expect.

Tell your friends and family you just can't hang out and come play some minecraft with your online buddies. We got fishing rods, food, diamond blocks, and heads to drop, we have mcmmo levels, a couple of repair and acrobatics levels to spread around, and a new airship with probably a treasure chest on it with some freshly imported pirate loot..

Maybe some staff members have time to join in so this is your chance to fish with a noobscraft staff!

There are again golden apples named mrfloris, and who knows what else .. just lying around on the shore line and the river floor.

Things that help:

Helmet with respiration and aqua enchants, so you can find that loot and look around for more. The repair and salvage cave below the jungle tree is still there, the repair and smelting furnaces are still there behind it. And the sunken ship is also still there, something fun to explore, and maybe even more treasure chests that refresh with new items every 15 minutes or so.

The event will be Less than an hour, but hopefully at least 30 minutes. Those who stick around to the end will again get a little extra something in a /gift.

Will there still be money vouchers floris? Heck yeah! I made a 100k just selling wood at the town x farms, so that's a voucher right there. And I just spoke to a fellow fisher Mistic_Ice who says to just drop another 250k to the ocean floor for one lucky person. There is still pirate gold left over from last nights part, so surely that will be flying around or sitting on the tops of trees.

Music? Duh! If you fish up a music disk and it's quiet, just bring it to a staff member or mrfloris, and we will turn up the volume.

Any surprises? If I told you.. it wouldn't really be a surprise. Maybe some new things have been built, maybe something else is in the planning. We will see.

Staff interested in fishing with us? Ask them! I dunno.. hope so :)
Double exp still going? Right now it is, fingers crossed it's still on later.
10+ people online? Maybe? Depends on you: Come online and stick around.. invite your friends.

mrfloris

Re: Fishy fishy! /fishing fisherman
« Reply #15 on: 13 May 2018, 00:10:30 »
Update:

Incoming news!

We have 12+ people online, double xp is still one, staff is showing up to help out and animals, airships and builds are being prepped.

It's time to get online, because in about 30 minutes from this post we will start fishing :)

If you're not yet in the /party, ask :)

mrfloris

Re: Fishy fishy! /fishing fisherman
« Reply #16 on: 13 May 2018, 01:51:01 »
AAAANDDDD,

My headache was less, killjoy showed up, we had 15+ people online and loads of diamond blocks and loot boxes to break
Many people fishing, many people leeching while they hunt for treasure.

I had fun, I hope you all had too.

I am tired and broke, so .. back to fishing now :) See you guys there? I will be at the river the whole weekend fishing in /party :) You're free to join.

Thanks everybody who participated!

mrfloris

Re: Fishy fishy! /fishing fisherman
« Reply #17 on: 14 May 2018, 00:59:25 »
incoming news !! beeep beep beeeep

:D

30 minutes until next fishing /party :)

ohlookawall

Re: Fishy fishy! /fishing fisherman
« Reply #18 on: 14 May 2018, 14:42:02 »
Thank you for this helpful guide, and for organizing the fishing parties! It was a lot of fun!!

I'm gonna look through the wiki now because I've wondered if certain biomes yielded better fish/catch rate.

mrfloris

Re: Fishy fishy! /fishing fisherman
« Reply #19 on: 14 May 2018, 15:43:16 »
Whoo, that was a crazy weekend :)

And I am glad it's monday now, so I can go to bed and pass out for a month to recover.

Hyperspacechewy

Re: Fishy fishy! /fishing fisherman
« Reply #20 on: 15 May 2018, 04:35:34 »
Lol, instead you go and convince the majority of the server to go and mine sand for over two hours. Good job mrfloris!