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Title: More Moderators o.o
Post by: danniel1998 on 2 Jun 2012, 13:30:39
Yes. It's another post about wanting more moderators for the server. At first there was only a handful of people agreeing with this idea, but now it's getting beyond a joke and a lot more serious. There's a high frequency of absence of moderators on the server. I know that this forum is here for when there are no moderators online, to report people of numerous rule breaking, but we shouldn't always have to rely on this forum. This server has moderators for a reason, to moderate the server, but there can't be any moderation on the server if no mods are online to effectively carry it out. I'm not entirely bothered about TZ's as long as it isn't another American mod, there's too many of them already. I'd preferably like to see an introduction of another European Mod personally. I've already read posts explaining that the server already has Geoboy66 and the Admins from England, but that isn't the point. The Admins are busy with more important errands and shouldn't have to deal with griefs etc. I hope this doesn't turn into a huge discussion but I really really really hope that someone, reading this, will think highly of it and take this on board.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: achmedofhell on 2 Jun 2012, 13:38:24
I totally agree, there haven't been any mods on as much. I thought tidal was going to be on more for she said she is always on but as i can see she is never on. Licksterboy hasn't been on for a while either and Angel_Lord left. Aj, emp, and esp are the only 3 real active mods. Ineed is on at one time during the day which is at night EST. Geo isn't even on much either. Since the absence of mods there have been multiple people saying in global chat, any moderators on i was griefed. Or there is some guy spamming and no one is there to stop them. The admins could come on since they are in england and it is usually 7am EST when its 12pm in england. I really think we need the admins and INEED at least picking out either 1 or 2 more moderators that will do the job. Perhaps someone who has been active a lot and is trustworthy. I don't know how they are picked but i hope we can get around 1 more that can be on. Thank you for reading.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: Miner_man123456 on 2 Jun 2012, 14:00:17
I agree with Achmed i thought when we got Tidal as a moderator the server would be protected at least most of the day but how it looks now it is not 1 single mod on.

Me, Danniel and Achmed was on not long ago and all three of us was talking about needing more mods, i saw at least 5 posts about wildy builders that has been griefed or stolen from, this could off course not be rolledback og fixed in any way without being replaced by the player if a mod is not on and if the greifed item is a diamond block this would be a waste of money, a big waste of money, if the griefed person is a noob he wont wait to get his stuff replaced and start spamming/raging in the chat.

So as Achmed and Danniel has said we need more European mods at least from the time zone 8am GMT and 14pm GMT that is the time I see a big lack of not a single moderator

I hope this gets fixed as soon as possible, Thank You :)

- Miner_man
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: danniel1998 on 2 Jun 2012, 14:05:19
Glad to see you two are on the same page as me.  :)
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: achmedofhell on 2 Jun 2012, 14:09:05
It doesn't even have to be from a certain timezone. If you see people on when other mods aren't then thats when we need mods. Im from EST and there are still no mods on :( i only see them at night when they all go to bed and or aj cause he is like central time i think so he is on a little late.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: Waterworth on 2 Jun 2012, 14:16:02
Dylan, is looking very hard for new Moderators, and we will hopefully have some more moderators soon. At at the moment our moderators aren't on very much because of exams, which is understandable. So soon we should see an increase in staff members, when the exam season finishes.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: danniel1998 on 2 Jun 2012, 14:18:54
Well I hope he makes a good decision that will both benefit the server and the community.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: Miner_man123456 on 2 Jun 2012, 14:27:38
Well I hope he makes a good decision that will both benefit the server and the community.
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I agree Danniel
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: Jayjay36 on 2 Jun 2012, 15:28:26
Or maybe a change of mods? I only ever see "we need more mods", but I'm just trying to look it at in every way I can, maybe we don't need more, just new? I'm not sure, no hate please :3  <3 lol.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: Lord_Lewes on 2 Jun 2012, 15:34:03
I remember seeing several people saying "Where's a moderator when we need one!", I don't see the point of hiring people who are in the middle of exams, during other country's holidays. You should have some more moderators from around the globe to work at different time zones, not just mainly US.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: Miner_man123456 on 2 Jun 2012, 15:34:22
Or maybe a change of mods? I only ever see "we need more mods", but I'm just trying to look it at in every way I can, maybe we don't need more, just new? I'm not sure, no hate please :3  <3 lol.

Replace would work as well I think but getting new ones is maybe less "Sad" if I can say it that way :P
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: Jayjay36 on 2 Jun 2012, 15:44:20

Replace would work as well I think but getting new ones is maybe less "Sad" if I can say it that way :P
I get what you mean, but look at it this way.. When you apply for moderator, you're agreeing to have the job of putting up with harsh situations if need be. You need to be online regularly. If you're barely online, are you sticking to what you promised in your application? Nope. More mods would possibly just pile on a bunch of AFK players in-game, but if the Admins were to try my suggestion then they'd see who the strong/loyal applicants are, wouldn't they?
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: masterrbc on 2 Jun 2012, 16:08:47
Some of the problems is, is that we aren't covering all of the time-zones, the pacific and Eastern Europe are some of the areas that need the mods the most. :/ It's just my input ;)
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: Jayjay36 on 2 Jun 2012, 16:13:07
You're right Master, but like Daniel said above, it's getting beyond the joke.. For all timezones.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: masterrbc on 2 Jun 2012, 16:41:41
Yes i agree, i personally have brought this issue up in that past, but have been told we have enough mods and that kind of stuff :/ so yeah

Look, we have been needing a pacific moderator for FAR TOO LONG, there have been numerous moderators added, but they have all been american, i am not saying this is bad, but to my consolation, it seems to be favoriting american times, i know that, that is not what it is, i am just saying is all, because we only have Geo who is an awesome mod from the UK, that is it. All of the other moderators are from America, we need more pacific and Eastern Europe Moderators, as i said before, i have brought this up many times in the past, but it has not only been passed down, i have also been told that there aren't any people who are wanting to be a mod in the Pacific(, which i have personally put my name up), and i have also been told that there we have too many mods.

 Now that said makes me think. "If we have too many mods, lets think about what the problem is. Is it because we have too many mods from one country or is it we need more mods?" A simple effective way to remove that barrier is to "Change" some mods, replace a few so that we can accommodate for other mods then.

Anyway, that is some more of my input ;)
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: danniel1998 on 2 Jun 2012, 16:51:40
Thanks for sharing your views and opinions masterr, I appreciate it.

I don't think any TZ's are covered fully apart from the American ones, obviously. But maybe we shouldn't think all about timezones and think more about how well suited the applicants are for the job. After all you wouldn't want someone to become a moderator just because of where they live.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: masterrbc on 2 Jun 2012, 16:56:31
Very true, but you also do not want a new moderator who is on at the exact same time as all the other moderators, who are not available to the rest of the server due to them all being in-bed asleep :)


Time-zones and quality of the moderators are important, but you must also think that the TZ must have GREAT consideration as to whether or not said mod is given the position, as i said, we do not want another mod coming on and going at the same time as the other mods, what is the point in having them then?
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: danniel1998 on 2 Jun 2012, 17:00:59
Time zones must be a crucial aspect when being considered to be a Mod. But many people have already pointed out the gaps for moderators that must be filled to prevent further hassle and bother.
I guess all we have to do is wait for the new Mod to be chosen. :/
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: masterrbc on 2 Jun 2012, 17:02:07
Yeah, and since we know that the admins and Head-mod are listening, for the love of the angels sake, not another American, we got enough!!!!! :P XD
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: AlbatrosV5 on 2 Jun 2012, 17:08:38
I thought tidal was going to be on more for she said she is always on but as i can see she is never on.
Technical problems, she`d love to be online atm, but you can`t help it if your Internet isn`t working. She was on for hours almost every day before that (during the Aussie/asia shift ;) ).

Or there is some guy spamming and no one is there to stop them.
/ignore [name]
And none of you tell me you are too lazy to type this few letters for an ignore (especially not those who claim with their modapplication that they would be willing to do far more work for the server than this little command) ;).




Need for a mod / "around the clock support"
This is a free server not a commercial one, so there are some things you can do on your own - like helping yourself against a spammer with a /ignore or reporting a griefer with a report on the forum (griefs rarely are critical enough that they couldn`t wait for a little time). As I said, the server not a commercial service but free for most of us, so the expectations of some in terms of being looked after all the time might be a bit high (especially from the viewpoint of the older gamers who aren`t used to be looked after all the time by their parents, teachers and older siblings any more). There might be a certain need for a new mod, but there are times when no mod is on and the community does a remarkable job of taking care of itself (answering questions of other members and guests, etc.). Aditional mods would certainly be fine but in my opinion the need is not critical enough to rush such a critical staff-decision.



Timeconsuming selection procedure
Let`s not forget that Ineed and the adminstaff have to check not only the applications for mods but also the shown willingness to help by these applicants (in good times and in bad times). I especially "like" it when those people complain in the game-chat about the "work to type in the /ignore command", that on the other hand apply for mod (which would mean a lot more work for them). Or when guest questions are ignored by applicants and only answered by those who don`t want to be a mod. That doesn`t make a decision easy for the staff.
They also have to check the calmness and attitude of the applicants. Those who get hotheaded whenever they feel criticised - those who get involved in too many teenage conflicts - those who are sulky because they haven´t been picked yet - they are probably not an easy pick for a mod-post that for example allows you to also read chats, they wouldn´t have access to as members. Chats in which people might actually talk about them. The staff has to pick mods that have shown they stand above those things, that can seperate being a player from being a mod.
So the decision is not as easy as it seems and the added pressure doesn`t help. A smart move for applicants might instead be to step up their efforts to relief the existing mod team as a member; to show that they are willing to do their share as members even if they someone else might get the modpost; to show that their character and sense of responsibility is suited for the post of a mod regardless their personal feelings towards other players and their ingame obligations.
I don`t think that the question amongst the staff is if there should be more mods, I think the problem the staff is facing is to find any applicants who are suited. Applicants who show a constant effort and performance (not only inside their towns/communities, but serverwide). Applicants who have shown that they can put aside personal feelings about past staffdecisions and regardless of that were still willing to help. Applicants who have shown that they can calmly handle criticism and even hostilities against their person (because that is what every mod must be able to face after some bans or similar decisions). Applicants who are willing to put aside their eagerness to become a mod and instead of adding pressure are willing to relieve the team by helping where they can as a member.
Maybe some applicants want to think about that, and ask themself if they want to become mod to BE a mod or because they want to help (in which case they might want to actually think about how much they have shown that in the last couple of weeks).

And to all those players that never want to become a mod (like me :P ): Even if you don`t want to become a mod, it doesn`t mean that you can`t help by simply answering questions of other players in the chat, taking care of some things yourself (like /ignore-ing spammers), or showing a little patience with the mods when they are really busy and can immediately come to you to check something.


Replacing mods
Jayjay, it is a valid consideration, but I don`t think it would be wise to replace any mods. The current mods have proven itself and there is no given limit to the number of mods. So why replace mods and keep the number of mods on the same level, instead of using the "possible replacments" to actually raise the numbers.
Even a mods that currently can online be online for short times (due to exams, real life, ...) is still a mod on.

So, in my opinion aditional mods - yes (carefully picked though, not a rushed decision), replacing the mods - no.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: masterrbc on 2 Jun 2012, 17:17:46
Alot of people, including myself, JJ, Danniel and sooo many others do all we can to help, so there is some, if not a fair bit of pressure that gets taken off the mods minds, but i do see where you come from, and i'll be honest, i personally feel i would be upto the challenge :) The hard part about being a mod to me, i see it as more of a challenge than some job to just do, the harder the task, the funner the time and the reward :) any challenge and obstacle can be overcome when you see it as a challenge, and nothing else, that is how i see trying to help others and stopping the people who do/threaten to do bad things! :/

anyway i am off to bed, my mind is cloudy! XD
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: Jayjay36 on 2 Jun 2012, 17:52:53
When I said "replacing mods", I didn't intentionally mean remove all the moderators we currently have and give the placements to other players, that would just be dumb because the current staff team is great, there is staff that I'd like see, keeping their title as moderator because when they're online I know that I don't need to worry about troublesome players coming on the server. Personally I believe there should be some adjusting or additions.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: danniel1998 on 2 Jun 2012, 17:56:31
Personally I believe there should be some adjusting

I second that.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: EttaDreamfeather on 2 Jun 2012, 18:19:08
Felt like posting here for two separate things.

1, the issue of TidalMewMew not being on as much.
Trust me, she's dying to be able to get on every day. She lost her internet because her mom can't even afford it anymore. Their Paypal was hacked by her mother's jealous ex-boyfriend so they can't use that anymore and she's hardly getting enough money to even afford gas so that's shut off. She's now even lost her phone because her father let the contract end and never renewed it.

She's only able to access the internet now because she can go to her grandma's every so often and get on a laptop there, but she can't access Minecraft for some reason because the browser never works for it and she can't download it. She is try to fix it though, she's trying to get a job to get money together to pay for a new phone and internet, so I'm hoping soon she'll be able to moderate like she used to.

2, about the mods not being as active.
I hate to say it, but Minecraft is not as important as passing college and high school exams. Yes, they signed up to be moderators. But they did not sign up to completely cripple their grades and fail their exams just to take care of us, now did they? It's very selfish to demand them to be on all the time when it can take hours just to study for one single exam. And they've got several.

You're really going to demand them to be on 24/7 when they have higher priority things right now? It's very cruel towards the kindness they've shown before when they would get on outside of their sleep times and when they normally wouldn't just to check on us. They're devoted to us, why are we not as devoted to them and respectful that they want to make sure their life won't be screwed over by the exams they are taking?

Let's all just cool down here from getting on their cases and calmly wait for them to get back on, as well as waiting for the admins and mods to choose a good new mod that's needed in any timezone that's currently not covered during the regular moderator's schedules.

I'm certainly looking forward to potentially having better coverage since I don't like having to see people saying that for hours normally they don't see a mod. I know what that's like, and I don't want it for anyone. :/
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: danniel1998 on 2 Jun 2012, 18:26:22
Really Twisted, really? Obviously there are reasons that Tidal can't be on, but I hated reading that. I find it very rude of you to be posting about her personal life on here for everyone to read.

Also, we never demanded that the mods needed to be on 24/7, because I for one understand that mods are normal people and have real life situations to attend to. All we want is for there to be more moderators, not more active ones if they have real life events.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: Miner_man123456 on 2 Jun 2012, 18:29:22
Felt like posting here for two separate things.

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1, the issue of TidalMewMew not being on as much.
Trust me, she's dying to be able to get on every day. She lost her internet because her mom can't even afford it anymore. Their Paypal was hacked by her mother's jealous ex-boyfriend so they can't use that anymore and she's hardly getting enough money to even afford gas so that's shut off. She's now even lost her phone because her father let the contract end and never renewed it.

She's only able to access the internet now because she can go to her grandma's every so often and get on a laptop there, but she can't access Minecraft for some reason because the browser never works for it and she can't download it. She is try to fix it though, she's trying to get a job to get money together to pay for a new phone and internet, so I'm hoping soon she'll be able to moderate like she used to.

I understand, Thanks for the info but no reason to post about people's personal life on a public forum you should be ashamed of yourself..!

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2, about the mods not being as active.
I hate to say it, but Minecraft is not as important as passing college and high school exams. Yes, they signed up to be moderators. But they did not sign up to completely cripple their grades and fail their exams just to take care of us, now did they? It's very selfish to demand them to be on all the time when it can take hours just to study for one single exam. And they've got several.

Don't drag things to far Twisted cause what you just said is not what we are talking about, we have not demanded the mods to be on 24/7 we have asked for more mods, asking for more moderators and demanding people to come on is two very different things so read thru the post a little better next time.

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Also, we never demanded that the mods needed to be on 24/7, because I for one understand that mods are normal people and have real life situations to attend to. All we want is for there to be more moderators, not more active ones if they have real life events.

Wrote by Danniel when i wrote this and he means the same.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: achmedofhell on 2 Jun 2012, 18:35:19
Twisted we aren't demanding for mods on and we don't need to know tidal's personal life. We aren't demanding mods to be on 24/7 we are just asking if we can have more moderators. I brought up twisted cause he obligated to being on when needed and she isn't. Like you said on skela's situation there personal life isn't excuse to do something do be careful with what you say.

Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: EttaDreamfeather on 2 Jun 2012, 18:37:54
Rude? I'm giving the reasons why she can't be on so no one thinks she's not on because she doesn't care. It's not rude of me, she doesn't mind if I give the reasons for it because of this. It's not like I'm posting her name and phone number and everything, so why does everyone care? She said it was okay to do, no reason to get all over me about it.

Seriously Achmed? There's a difference between your own behavior and a situation you can't control. You're pretty much saying there that it's her fault she can't afford internet, which is not true in the slightest.

"When you apply for moderator, you're agreeing to have the job of putting up with harsh situations if need be. You need to be online regularly. If you're barely online, are you sticking to what you promised in your application? Nope. More mods would possibly just pile on a bunch of AFK players in-game, but if the Admins were to try my suggestion then they'd see who the strong/loyal applicants are, wouldn't they?"

You going to try to claim Minerman did not say that? It's not their fault they have exams which happen around twice a year. It's not fair to say that they have "events" as if they're doing it all the time. Once their exams are done they'll be back on.

I agree we do need more mods, but the mods we currently have are also good. There's no reason for us to say they're not fulfilling their commitments to us when they can't control the fact that exams are so very important to them and they can't sacrifice the exam grades for us. They already give so much of their time, it's just not right to claim they aren't "doing their obligation" to us by demanding more.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: AlbatrosV5 on 2 Jun 2012, 18:39:05
Danniel and miner, I`m a little disappointed. Both of you should know Twisted and Tidal well enough to know that Tidal knows exactly what Twisted is posting here AND that Twisted would never post anything like that without Tidal being ok with it. Especially 2 good candidates for a modpost like you two should know their fellow gamers better than that ;)
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: achmedofhell on 2 Jun 2012, 18:41:48
U must not be comprehending this. We need more mods from Europe end of story. That wraps this up. No need o talk about tidal no need to talk about any mod. We just need European mods
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: Tidala on 2 Jun 2012, 18:46:06
If im not on and im being talked about Twist is very much allowed to speak for me as long as it isnt about moderator things. We're as close as we can get without being sisters, she knows what she's talking about. I dont mind if she explains.

The problem with more mods is its more trouble. More mods that you cant always watch and control. Especially when we lose our cool, no one is perfect and we all do it. More mods also means more distance between us and the admins, which also leads to trouble.

If i remember, besides late at night my time, there's almost always a mod  on. we need at least one more to cover another time zone, but how many are you people implying? more spaces for more of the random people who put apps in? Some of the people just joined in a few days they put in an application because they just want it. Its not like there are excessive perks, most of your personal gameplay time is nerfed and you have to help people, your game is on pause until you do your duty.

Its less European and more... Aussie if i remember. there's a time zone needed to be covered. Please be respectful in your posts directed at people, this is your warning.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: achmedofhell on 2 Jun 2012, 18:48:44
Thank you for replying tidal, this clears things up. Also does this warning apply to twisted?
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: danniel1998 on 2 Jun 2012, 18:53:29
Danniel and miner, I`m a little disappointed. Both of you should know Twisted and Tidal well enough to know that Tidal knows exactly what Twisted is posting here AND that Twisted would never post anything like that without Tidal being ok with it. Especially 2 good candidates for a modpost like you two should know their fellow gamers better than that ;)
I'm sorry you feel this way. But I personally find it upsetting that Twisted has posted something about Tidal's personal life on here, even if she doesn't mind it. I definitely wouldn't want something about my own private life posted on this forum for people to read and, maybe, even take advantage of.

And I personally believe that there isn't a need for an Aussie mod yet. There should be more activity during that time zone before even thinking of getting a Mod there.

Also, in response to you Tidal. Nobody was disrespectful here, everyone was just expressing their opinions on whether or not a new mod needs to be chosen. More mods does not mean more trouble. In fact, it creates less trouble.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: Tidala on 2 Jun 2012, 18:58:07
I cant see the disrespect, so no not really, its directed at yourself and Miner. Disrespect is not tolerated. Also you may think im siding with her if you want cause i hardly care what you think about me. Think all you want. She gave the reasons im not on and they are out of my control, the other mods and admins know and that's what matters.

I understand what you're saying, but alot of servers have alot of mods, random mods that do squat, and its chaos. 2/3 servers i played, the mods were just his friend and were douches tbh. Not saying names tho.

Problem with the timezone is the first major spam attack happened late, with no mods on. Someone had to fetch Ineed to lock the server in case anything happened. We need a mod to cover just a little more of the late nights since i cant be on to help cover it and Emp wont be able to forever.

Apparently Euro mods are all we need? Seriously? That's still another time zone gap we'd need to cover. That could be taken badly, at least alba rolled with it and turned it right back on you.

Get back and stay on subject people.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: Miner_man123456 on 2 Jun 2012, 19:00:47
Danniel and miner, I`m a little disappointed. Both of you should know Twisted and Tidal well enough to know that Tidal knows exactly what Twisted is posting here AND that Twisted would never post anything like that without Tidal being ok with it. Especially 2 good candidates for a modpost like you two should know their fellow gamers better than that ;)

As Danniel already said I feel the same way, I would not want any of my private info except what I post myself on this forum, just thought others may feel the same :) and sorry Tidal if I went over the line saying Twisted cant post about your private life :/
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: AlbatrosV5 on 2 Jun 2012, 19:15:31
Apparently Euro mods are all we need? Seriously? That's still another time zone gap we'd need to cover. That could be taken badly, at least alba rolled with it and turned it right back on you.

Actually, I deleted the post you are refering to because I will not further comment the fact that european applicants for mod state that only european mods are needed as next mod. And that apparently all the australian/asian gamers have less right on a mod than the EU gamers (despite having a respectable number of users on the server). Being a european living in Pacific-Asia I`m actually a bit ashamed that some Europeans (and in one case here one American) really dare to post something like that.

The only thing I will say in this whole discussion before I will simply ignore this "We EU-applicants want another EU-mod (and no Aussie or American)" topics: If i had to pick the Mod the choice would be very easy for me: Masterrbc (I might not always be his opinion, but I highly respect him as a gamer/forumposter and able mod-applicant.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: Jayjay36 on 2 Jun 2012, 19:36:49
"When you apply for moderator, you're agreeing to have the job of putting up with harsh situations if need be. You need to be online regularly. If you're barely online, are you sticking to what you promised in your application? Nope. More mods would possibly just pile on a bunch of AFK players in-game, but if the Admins were to try my suggestion then they'd see who the strong/loyal applicants are, wouldn't they?"

That was me Twisted..
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: EttaDreamfeather on 2 Jun 2012, 19:48:21
Oh, I see. Sorry about that. It had been quoted in one of his posts when I went back through when I was posting at that point. My mistake, I apologize. ^^
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: Techsam on 2 Jun 2012, 21:24:24
I know that I'm coming in late to this topic, but I'm not really a person who stalks the forums. I personally think that the server does't need more mods. Yes maybe some mods in different time zones would be nice, but for when mods are not online on the server the community of Noobstown is very capable of dealing with people who break the rules. So as reporting the player on the forum. I can agree that sometimes things can get out of hand on the server when there are not moderators online, but so far I have seen people do a great job of making sure everyone follows the rules.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: danniel1998 on 2 Jun 2012, 21:29:09
Yes, I agree that the community is good with dealing with it, but not resolving the issues. Such as griefing or spamming.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: masterrbc on 3 Jun 2012, 00:42:25
I know that I'm coming in late to this topic, but I'm not really a person who stalks the forums. I personally think that the server does't need more mods. Yes maybe some mods in different time zones would be nice, but for when mods are not online on the server the community of Noobstown is very capable of dealing with people who break the rules. So as reporting the player on the forum. I can agree that sometimes things can get out of hand on the server when there are not moderators online, but so far I have seen people do a great job of making sure everyone follows the rules.
Samson, i'll try and clear it up as to why we want more moderators.

Ok, yes it is quite true the all of our players are able to tell people that they are doing the wrong thing, tell them to stop spamming, tell them to stop swearing and so on.

Now if you think about it, Noobstown is just a boat. And we are getting holes/leaks which need to be patched, we aren't able to find enough people to patch the wholes and keep them closed, ,some people are just putting their hands and feet on the holes for now (Which is what our players do best at trying to prevent things), but soon our later, we either need to get more people to help, teach some others to mend the boat, or we drown, :D

That is more or less how i see the server when it comes to more moderators and that, we're getting too big a holes to patch on our boat. And said holes are the timezones as well as some different things/matter, We don't have enough people who "Know" how to patch our boat.

I hope that that has explained some other things, i know tat you know most/all of this, but i am saying this to help others who do not know the situation and/or giving you some more info :)
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: Tidala on 3 Jun 2012, 01:27:07
Don't worry too much about it, Fatnoob wouldn't let the server down. Just trust the admins and mods and we'll see what comes of it.

I agree we need to focus on the missing time zones but then again some of us(when active) sometimes defy that.  I was able to cover quite alot of time, being on for part of aussie time, but that's still not good enough, even I have to sleep XD

They'll manage, you'll see.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: masterrbc on 3 Jun 2012, 01:36:02
Tidal, i wil ladmit you are always trying your hardest to help cover the aussie times, i will not only say for myself but for any-other Pacific-region players that you contribution is very helpful, and we are quite thankful, but as it is repeatedly said, we need to get an aussie/pacific region time moderator
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: Tidala on 3 Jun 2012, 02:08:45
I very much agree, and while i cant help right now, i can promise they're working on it.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: masterrbc on 3 Jun 2012, 02:29:39
Yeah, i hope we get this resolved ASAP! :)
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: EttaDreamfeather on 3 Jun 2012, 02:53:30
Felt like mentioning what Esp told me earlier today. He'd talked to Ineed about all this, and Ineed said that everything should be sorted out by July.

Not sure exactly how they're going to accomplish this, but at least we're given a date on when things should be better. :L
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: skelaguy on 3 Jun 2012, 03:09:04
Hey I have a good idea(even though im banned) remember what i said I would never leave the server forever(even if I only can use the forums lol)
I think you should mod danniel and achmedofhell personally I think they know how to handle stuff better then the mods you already have(no offense)and they are on a lot more then most of the mods, so if there was a vote or something for a mod i vote either one of them or both of them.

Please do not reply to this mad at me because im banned lol.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: masterrbc on 3 Jun 2012, 03:31:04
Ok, this is where stuff starts to go downhill, The Australian/NZ/Pacific timezone is not being accommodated for.
Making danniel and Achmed a mod will not do anything for the Pacific regioners, how hard is it to understand? (i am not yelling or anything just saying! XD)

Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: skelaguy on 3 Jun 2012, 03:35:19
Master I really dont know timezones that well I just always see them on.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: masterrbc on 3 Jun 2012, 03:38:34
Ok, Danniel is in the EU timezone, and so is achmed (i think), i and a fair few others including Alba, are in the Pacific Timezone, there are no moderators online at our time due to them being asleep :/
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: achmedofhell on 3 Jun 2012, 03:39:33
I'm American and in EST whig we have enough of. I think Daniel can make the cut cause he is from England, it's close enough. He would be like a geo that's on 10x more. Even check in game stats daniel is on so much. Master is a good choice to cause I never see him on meaning his time zone must be opposit of mine. I heard about ringburn and I think all we need to replace him is to either get Daniel or master.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: masterrbc on 3 Jun 2012, 03:51:43
I'm American and in EST whig we have enough of.

There, so that means that making Achmed a mod wouldn't be beneficial to Timezones, i am not saying he isn't a good person, it's just that the Timezones do not accommodate. :/ so yeah
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: Faroutdudes5 on 3 Jun 2012, 05:43:48
Oh, I definitely agree. There are rarely any mods on now, maybe every now and then in the mornings; Central Time. However, in central time, they are on very rarely in the afternoons, and even MORE rarely during the night.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: masterrbc on 3 Jun 2012, 08:32:37
it is felt by me aswell! :/
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: danniel1998 on 3 Jun 2012, 09:39:56
I think you should mod danniel

Thank you for your kind words. :)

there are no moderators online at our time due to them being asleep :/

How many European moderators are there? 1. That's not enough to help cover that time zone. Geoboy is the only British moderator. And not trying to be mean or anything, but he isn't exactly on that much.
I personally don't see a need for a Pacific moderator yet (not trying to sound harsh on you masterr xD.), what I think we need more is for another European mod. Someone that can help fill the gaps of when American mods aren't online.

Oh, I definitely agree. There are rarely any mods on now, maybe every now and then in the mornings; Central Time. However, in central time, they are on very rarely in the afternoons, and even MORE rarely during the night.

Central Time is by far the best covered time zone, since the majority of the moderators now are from around that time zone. So your statement just backs up most peoples ideas of moderators being fairly inactive, not that I can see them if they're online when I'm asleep. :P
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: masterrbc on 3 Jun 2012, 09:56:23
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I personally don't see a need for a Pacific moderator yet (not trying to sound harsh on you masterr xD.), what I think we need more is for another European mod. Someone that can help fill the gaps of when American mods aren't online.

That is Excluding the Pacific Timezone, I do not believe that it will be done like that because ALL major Timezones are supposed to be covered, you cannot just exclude a timezone danniel because you think it isn't important and it doesn't need a moderator, which is rubbish because there being a moderator for the Pacific Timezone, would be quite important. We need one for when there are no other moderators online, having a Pacific and EU time moderator (one for both) would work.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: danniel1998 on 3 Jun 2012, 10:08:21
I'd love to see a moderator from both time zones (EU and Pacific). But I just don't think that will happen, sadly.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: masterrbc on 3 Jun 2012, 10:09:53
I said a moderator for each
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: danniel1998 on 3 Jun 2012, 10:21:25
We don't need a moderator for EACH time zone. Just the major ones. The time zones should be covered if we get another EU and a Pacific mod.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: masterrbc on 3 Jun 2012, 10:24:20
*facepalm* i ment we should have a mod for EU and the Pacific....
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: danniel1998 on 3 Jun 2012, 10:52:09
Right. And as I said before I doubt that they'd pick 2 mods at the same time.  :P
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: masterrbc on 3 Jun 2012, 11:01:19
Well, in my opinion, it'd be the best way to elimante a fair bit of the demand needed :/ :P
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: masterrbc on 3 Jun 2012, 11:16:46
What i can say for sure, is that this has definitely raised some alarms, and brought the problems above deck for all to see, the problems should be handled within the month or something! XD :/

 
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: danniel1998 on 3 Jun 2012, 11:34:01
the problems should be handled within the month or something! XD :/
Ineed said that everything should be sorted out by July.

I really hope this problem is either sorted out or at least dealt with. :)
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: Jayjay36 on 3 Jun 2012, 20:39:50
I'm sure the staff have seen everyones input on the bothersome mod timing, I'm also sure that Dylan has everything under control now and knows what he's doing. Maybe you should lock this topic, Daniel :)
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: tyja on 3 Jun 2012, 21:29:07
I to believe a lock is in order but after this.  Everytime i was on in the past two days there has been 2 or more mods on NOT including Ineed. As it was said before more people are getting off exams and are having more free time.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: MagicMan27 on 4 Jun 2012, 03:12:28
I agree that there should be more mods because i have seen people greif my house and me not being able to do anything to stop them when i see them infront if me. That ia all i have to say.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: masterrbc on 4 Jun 2012, 03:30:26
Yeah, hopefully it will all be sorted out when the next moderator(s) is chosen, and i hope it will be a Pacific moderator, as we do need one.
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: INEEDANAME1564 on 4 Jun 2012, 06:05:47
I appreciate all of your input, and I have noted it for future refrence.
It is kind of bad timing, server popularity spikes just as most of the moderation staff enter the busiest time of the year (school work / exams, etc)
I am trying my best to get mods that best suit their timezone and the server.
But I am going to say that from now untill end of June are going to be fairly difficult for mods to get on.
I applogize for this issue, and all the inconveniences that come with it, everything will be better in due time though. :)

-Ineed and the moderation team
Title: Re: More Moderators o.o
Post by: danniel1998 on 4 Jun 2012, 09:46:31
I appreciate all of your input, and I have noted it for future refrence.
It is kind of bad timing, server popularity spikes just as most of the moderation staff enter the busiest time of the year (school work / exams, etc)
I am trying my best to get mods that best suit their timezone and the server.
But I am going to say that from now untill end of June are going to be fairly difficult for mods to get on.
I applogize for this issue, and all the inconveniences that come with it, everything will be better in due time though. :)

-Ineed and the moderation team

Thanks a lot INEED. Now that I've got something that can put this topic to rest, I'll lock it. Thanks everyone for your feedback. :)