Remove 5% Tax  (Read 1398 times)

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Powerage_

Remove 5% Tax
« on: 3 Oct 2017, 03:39:54 »
Just remove the 5% tax, please. It doesn't help anyone, the consumer has to pay me more for something as the seller puts their prices up just so after the 5% tax they still make enough to have a profit compared to selling to /shop what has no taxes. Also if the seller has to put their prices up it starts getting hard to undercut other prices so the seller gets business.  The consumer has to pay more and the seller may lose customers that doesn't seem to help anyone in my eyes. I know it's to get nbz out of the economy but I'm sure you can find better ways to remove nbz out of the economy instead of making it hard for consumers and sellers. Thanks for your time.

JamesTwice

Re: Remove 5% Tax
« Reply #1 on: 3 Oct 2017, 14:52:33 »
5% is not that much. just 5 out of every 100.

ItsLawrence

Re: Remove 5% Tax
« Reply #2 on: 3 Oct 2017, 17:45:04 »
...It doesn't help anyone, the consumer has to pay me more for something as the seller puts their prices up just so after the 5% tax they still make enough to have a profit compared to selling to /shop what has no taxes. Also if the seller has to put their prices up it starts getting hard to undercut other prices so the seller gets business.
It's a tax that everyone has to pay for transactions through the chest shops, so there shouldn't be any differences to the competition. If you want to undercut someone that's your choice, but both you and them are paying the same 5% tax so it's not like that makes it unfair. Everyone has to pay that tax equally so it just gets absorbed into the pricing that people see, and you should take it into account when putting an amount on the sign. In the transactions, the amount they see on the sign is what the receiver gets, it doesn't directly change it for them, in all cases the seller pays the tax out of the money they would have made, it's your choice to sell knowing what the tax amount is.

There is no tax for /shop because this is a sale to the server, not to another player. If you'd make more money selling to /shop then you too can do that just like anyone else. It's effectively a convenience fee for performing direct player to player trades even when you're not online. Or if you want to; you could consider that there is also a 5% tax on /shop but it simply is already taken into account, and the amount listed is after tax :P.

The consumer has to pay more and the seller may lose customers that doesn't seem to help anyone in my eyes...
The consumer may pay more, but that's not directly a big issue because it's an even increase for all sales of all items to all players (back to the point above about it being the same for everyone), it just makes the pricing of everything slightly higher on all transactions. Plus with the items listed on /shop there is effectively a minimum sale price set anyway so the pricing is almost always going to be more than that, forcing the consumer to pay more for those items anyway.

Prices are ultimately determined by players, if you want to sell something where you make no money because of the tax then that's your choice, just like a real world business could do that to undercut competition. It would probably be an unwise/unsustainable thing to do though. Taking into account the tax is just something you have to do.

...I know it's to get nbz out of the economy but I'm sure you can find better ways to remove nbz out of the economy instead of making it hard for consumers and sellers...
For the reasons above I disagree that it makes it "hard" for everyone, it's a fair system that everyone who sells through chest shops has to pay and consider. The tax has been in the game for years, and everyone's pricing should already have taken this into account, it's not like it's a feature suddenly added that is going to dramatically change how people price their things.

But if you can think of ideas of any better alternatives then I'd be open to hearing them.