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News, Announcements & Updates => Server Announcements => Topic started by: Foob on 16 Jun 2011, 21:11:57
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After having hard talks with our host we are having huge maintenance to fix all the lag/crashes and rollback issues. Sorry these past few weeks have been hell.. we are trying to identify the problem.
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Was wondering why it stopped lol
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Estimated time in days/hours?
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Would imagine 1-2hours maybe longer.
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is it safe to say that the neither wasnt the problem and mabe we could again be aloud to go there? or mabe a drop party with some neitherrack stacks : )
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Nether*
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Oh. So the problem is noobstown, I thought it was my computer :I
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After having hard talks with our host we are having huge maintenance to fix all the lag/crashes and rollback issues. Sorry these past few weeks have been hell.. we are trying to identify the problem.
As you will remember, we had a talk today. You were kinda mad (at me) and angry for what I said. It was about my donation and that I took it back.
I wanted to say something in addition, but I couldn't find the right words. So, I know it's kind of hard to understand that, if I say something like: "OMG, LAG AGAIN", it ain't really pointed in your direction. I know that you are ****ed off as most of us are and I know that you are "working" on it.
The point just is, I've made a lot of bad experiences on those "donation" things, just look at it joe, people are already "paying" for the server, as far as I know, someone donated 30 pounds... That person easily could host his / her own server.
The main reason the people are here is the community... we are not many, but we are kinda connected, due to minecraft, the server and the lag. :S
Okay, what I was trying to say is... I think you should have made that step earlier, I dont know how stable Noobstown V1 was, but V2 had to fight with lag issues as well. I do not want to say, that you are a FAIL0R ZOMG ROFL, but... maybe you get my point.
Also, I said something that most people got wrong ( the 3 week bet ). I'll define new, what I said: from a bet to a hope.
I hope that the server stays online straight for at least 3 weeks, because then I'm willing to repay my donation and double the amount (if you want to take it). I just wanna see that this server becomes stable and gets what it deserves, an even better and bigger community.
€: hope you can figure out, what it is.
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I think you got it wrong Nerzhal.
a) a donation is just that, a donation, its not like your buying something.
Its a gift, you should not expect something in return at all.
The fact that you are given tools, diamonds, etc is a bonus, it should not be your motivation.
A gift should be given based on past experience, not on future expectations.
look it up in the dictionary.
Taking back a gift is 'not done' were I come from.
Threatening not to give a gift back, is just, well, plain silly.
b) I doubt 30 pound would settle the bill for hosting a server, if it does, it would be an empty server.
The amount of effort put in by all the community members, admins especially is priceless....
My 2 cents.
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a donation is just that, a donation, its not like your buying something.
Its a gift, you should not expect something in return at all, look it up in the dictionary.
Taking back a gift is 'not done' were I come from.
Threatening not to give a gift back, is just, well, plain silly.
first: would you "donate" for something that doesnt work? I mean, I donated and 2 days later the server crashed etc. second: I've never threatened anyone.
I doubt 30 pound would settle the bill for hosting a server, if it does
It does.
Taking back a gift is 'not done' were I come from.
Keep your allusions please.
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I think you got it wrong Nerzhal.
a) a donation is just that, a donation, its not like your buying something.
Its a gift, you should not expect something in return at all, look it up in the dictionary.
Taking back a gift is 'not done' were I come from.
Threatening not to give a gift back, is just, well, plain silly.
b) I doubt 30 pound would settle the bill for hosting a server, if it does, it would be an empty server.
The amount of effort put in by all the community members, admins especially is priceless.........
My 2 cents.
i fully agree with you dopehead. joe does what he can he cant help that the people that he pays cant keep their stuff up and running. and i can understand if he doesnt want to move to another server provider. because then he would have to start completely over again. btw joe ill be making another small donation shortly waiting on my drill check lol.
ooo and btw i have donated to a server that is closing and it sucks cause ive given so much to it but o well there is nothing i can do about it because he doesnt want to host and at lease joe fights to keep things going and not just give up. so ill stick with him and this server because people here dont give up and they love what they do. so ill donate even if the server goes down for a 2 week period i wont stop cause its the only thing i can do to help support this server wish i could do more but o well.
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I edited while you posted, to clarify the exact point you got wrong.
Yes I did donate after a couple of days play, I liked the server a lot and wanted to help out.
My donation was based on the short experience I had on the server.
After I donate, I can only hope they put it to good use.
If they do, they can expect more donations.
If they don't. well then that's it.
And I believe you did threaten not to return the money, you basically allready 'gifted' to the server, unless things get better.
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If they don't. well then that's it.
they basically took your money for nothing then... well, I consider it scamming. Read my post again if you think I've threatened someone. After the donations joe got, he can keep the server up for 2-3months for "free", he doesnt need my donation and I'm aware of that.
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once more : your not buying stuff, your donating, open a dictionary, it means its a gift, you SHOULD assume you get nothing in return.
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once more : your not buying stuff, your donating, open a dictionary, it means its a gift, you SHOULD assume you get nothing in return.
The reason to donate to something is to believe it is something good. You better look up the definition of it as well. I've never said, I'm buying stuff, although you DO (ingame money, jump etc.).
Again for you dopehead: I don't donate for something that isnt "good" (in this case: server perfomance)
lol@ the disrespect.
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After having hard talks with our host we are having huge maintenance to fix all the lag/crashes and rollback issues. Sorry these past few weeks have been hell.. we are trying to identify the problem.
As you will remember, we had a talk today. You were kinda mad (at me) and angry for what I said. It was about my donation and that I took it back.
I wanted to say something in addition, but I couldn't find the right words. So, I know it's kind of hard to understand that, if I say something like: "OMG, LAG AGAIN", it ain't really pointed in your direction. I know that you are ****ed off as most of us are and I know that you are "working" on it.
The point just is, I've made a lot of bad experiences on those "donation" things, just look at it joe, people are already "paying" for the server, as far as I know, someone donated 30 pounds... That person easily could host his / her own server.
The main reason the people are here is the community... we are not many, but we are kinda connected, due to minecraft, the server and the lag. :S
Okay, what I was trying to say is... I think you should have made that step earlier, I dont know how stable Noobstown V1 was, but V2 had to fight with lag issues as well. I do not want to say, that you are a FAIL0R ZOMG ROFL, but... maybe you get my point.
Also, I said something that most people got wrong ( the 3 week bet ). I'll define new, what I said: from a bet to a hope.
I hope that the server stays online straight for at least 3 weeks, because then I'm willing to repay my donation and double the amount (if you want to take it). I just wanna see that this server becomes stable and gets what it deserves, an even better and bigger community.
€: hope you can figure out, what it is.
If you think you can run a server on £30 then go ahead :) you'll soon see the truth
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After having hard talks with our host we are having huge maintenance to fix all the lag/crashes and rollback issues. Sorry these past few weeks have been hell.. we are trying to identify the problem.
As you will remember, we had a talk today. You were kinda mad (at me) and angry for what I said. It was about my donation and that I took it back.
I wanted to say something in addition, but I couldn't find the right words. So, I know it's kind of hard to understand that, if I say something like: "OMG, LAG AGAIN", it ain't really pointed in your direction. I know that you are ****ed off as most of us are and I know that you are "working" on it.
The point just is, I've made a lot of bad experiences on those "donation" things, just look at it joe, people are already "paying" for the server, as far as I know, someone donated 30 pounds... That person easily could host his / her own server.
The main reason the people are here is the community... we are not many, but we are kinda connected, due to minecraft, the server and the lag. :S
Okay, what I was trying to say is... I think you should have made that step earlier, I dont know how stable Noobstown V1 was, but V2 had to fight with lag issues as well. I do not want to say, that you are a FAIL0R ZOMG ROFL, but... maybe you get my point.
Also, I said something that most people got wrong ( the 3 week bet ). I'll define new, what I said: from a bet to a hope.
I hope that the server stays online straight for at least 3 weeks, because then I'm willing to repay my donation and double the amount (if you want to take it). I just wanna see that this server becomes stable and gets what it deserves, an even better and bigger community.
€: hope you can figure out, what it is.
If you think you can run a server on £30 then go ahead :) you'll soon see the truth
http://main.jestservers.com/2010-05/rent-minecraft-dedicated-servers/ (http://main.jestservers.com/2010-05/rent-minecraft-dedicated-servers/)
30bucks a month
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/donation (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/donation)
do·na·tion
[doh-ney-shuhn]
–noun
1. an act or instance of presenting something as a gift, grant, or contribution.
2. a gift, as to a fund; contribution.
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After having hard talks with our host we are having huge maintenance to fix all the lag/crashes and rollback issues. Sorry these past few weeks have been hell.. we are trying to identify the problem.
As you will remember, we had a talk today. You were kinda mad (at me) and angry for what I said. It was about my donation and that I took it back.
I wanted to say something in addition, but I couldn't find the right words. So, I know it's kind of hard to understand that, if I say something like: "OMG, LAG AGAIN", it ain't really pointed in your direction. I know that you are ****ed off as most of us are and I know that you are "working" on it.
The point just is, I've made a lot of bad experiences on those "donation" things, just look at it joe, people are already "paying" for the server, as far as I know, someone donated 30 pounds... That person easily could host his / her own server.
The main reason the people are here is the community... we are not many, but we are kinda connected, due to minecraft, the server and the lag. :S
Okay, what I was trying to say is... I think you should have made that step earlier, I dont know how stable Noobstown V1 was, but V2 had to fight with lag issues as well. I do not want to say, that you are a FAIL0R ZOMG ROFL, but... maybe you get my point.
Also, I said something that most people got wrong ( the 3 week bet ). I'll define new, what I said: from a bet to a hope.
I hope that the server stays online straight for at least 3 weeks, because then I'm willing to repay my donation and double the amount (if you want to take it). I just wanna see that this server becomes stable and gets what it deserves, an even better and bigger community.
€: hope you can figure out, what it is.
If you think you can run a server on £30 then go ahead :) you'll soon see the truth
http://main.jestservers.com/2010-05/rent-minecraft-dedicated-servers/ (http://main.jestservers.com/2010-05/rent-minecraft-dedicated-servers/)
30bucks a month
yeah 30 a month not a one off £30 payment...
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/donation (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/donation)
do·na·tion
[doh-ney-shuhn]
–noun
1. an act or instance of presenting something as a gift, grant, or contribution.
2. a gift, as to a fund; contribution.
So why did I got something for my "donation" ?
yeah 30 a month not a one off £30 payment...
I've never said that you could own a server like this... I said people donated enough to keep the server up for 2-3 months, read my posts...
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/donation (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/donation)
do·na·tion
[doh-ney-shuhn]
–noun
1. an act or instance of presenting something as a gift, grant, or contribution.
2. a gift, as to a fund; contribution.
So why did I got something for my "donation" ?
don't you get a poppy when donating on poppy day? or other badges w.e when donating to other things?
it's just a little reward you get for helping the server out :)
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That is a gift back to you, the donator.
Its a 'no strings attached' mutual gift.
You keep looking at it wrong.
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That is a gift back to you, the donator.
Its a 'no strings attached' mutual gift.
You keep looking at it wrong.
Lol... this logic, are you serious? So why did they took their gift back then? And dont come up with "you did it as well", because you said "were you come from, people dont do that".
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That is a gift back to you, the donator.
Its a 'no strings attached' mutual gift.
You keep looking at it wrong.
Lol... this logic, are you serious? So why did they took their gift back then? And dont come up with "you did it as well", because you said "were you come from, people dont do that".
if u give me a give and i give u something in return and then u want ur gift back i want mine back as well flat out simple. u wanna be rude then i will be rude same thing. its very simple lol
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That is a gift back to you, the donator.
Its a 'no strings attached' mutual gift.
You keep looking at it wrong.
Lol... this logic, are you serious? So why did they took their gift back then? And dont come up with "you did it as well", because you said "were you come from, people dont do that".
if u give me a give and i give u something in return and then u want ur gift back i want mine back as well flat out simple. u wanna be rude then i will be rude same thing. its very simple lol
Actually, I think the same way, but dopehead doesn't.
Just to point that out... If two sides give something, it ain't a donation anymore, sorry to say that, but it is an exchange.
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im kinda confused and would like to chime in but.....in not up to date on the facts........how much did you donate and what kinda items did you get to donate...just curiuos i was thinking bout it and didnt know.....
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After having hard talks with our host we are having huge maintenance to fix all the lag/crashes and rollback issues. Sorry these past few weeks have been hell.. we are trying to identify the problem.
As you will remember, we had a talk today. You were kinda mad (at me) and angry for what I said. It was about my donation and that I took it back.
I wanted to say something in addition, but I couldn't find the right words. So, I know it's kind of hard to understand that, if I say something like: "OMG, LAG AGAIN", it ain't really pointed in your direction. I know that you are ****ed off as most of us are and I know that you are "working" on it.
The point just is, I've made a lot of bad experiences on those "donation" things, just look at it joe, people are already "paying" for the server, as far as I know, someone donated 30 pounds... That person easily could host his / her own server.
The main reason the people are here is the community... we are not many, but we are kinda connected, due to minecraft, the server and the lag. :S
Okay, what I was trying to say is... I think you should have made that step earlier, I dont know how stable Noobstown V1 was, but V2 had to fight with lag issues as well. I do not want to say, that you are a FAIL0R ZOMG ROFL, but... maybe you get my point.
Also, I said something that most people got wrong ( the 3 week bet ). I'll define new, what I said: from a bet to a hope.
I hope that the server stays online straight for at least 3 weeks, because then I'm willing to repay my donation and double the amount (if you want to take it). I just wanna see that this server becomes stable and gets what it deserves, an even better and bigger community.
€: hope you can figure out, what it is.
If you think you can run a server on £30 then go ahead :) you'll soon see the truth
http://main.jestservers.com/2010-05/rent-minecraft-dedicated-servers/ (http://main.jestservers.com/2010-05/rent-minecraft-dedicated-servers/)
30bucks a month
Hi, Jest servers are extremely overloaded and lag like hell. That's also 1gb for $30 per month do take in we have 6gb. I would also like to mention that there is a problem with our host and we are attempting to fix. As you may not know when we first bought Nerzhal we did not have these issues but when you joined Noobstown and donated the issue had just started. Also I shouted at you earlier for moaning at me on the forums and in game all the time you moan 24/7 I did not moan once about you requesting for a refund and I did not try and fight again the refund I simply gave you the money back. If you don't like the server and want to continually moan and be a ***** I don't want our current dontators or myself paying to keep you on the server.
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but in all fairness nerzhal if u dont donate u dont have a right to gripe about how the server is running. thats my 2cents on that.
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After having hard talks with our host we are having huge maintenance to fix all the lag/crashes and rollback issues. Sorry these past few weeks have been hell.. we are trying to identify the problem.
As you will remember, we had a talk today. You were kinda mad (at me) and angry for what I said. It was about my donation and that I took it back.
I wanted to say something in addition, but I couldn't find the right words. So, I know it's kind of hard to understand that, if I say something like: "OMG, LAG AGAIN", it ain't really pointed in your direction. I know that you are ****ed off as most of us are and I know that you are "working" on it.
The point just is, I've made a lot of bad experiences on those "donation" things, just look at it joe, people are already "paying" for the server, as far as I know, someone donated 30 pounds... That person easily could host his / her own server.
The main reason the people are here is the community... we are not many, but we are kinda connected, due to minecraft, the server and the lag. :S
Okay, what I was trying to say is... I think you should have made that step earlier, I dont know how stable Noobstown V1 was, but V2 had to fight with lag issues as well. I do not want to say, that you are a FAIL0R ZOMG ROFL, but... maybe you get my point.
Also, I said something that most people got wrong ( the 3 week bet ). I'll define new, what I said: from a bet to a hope.
I hope that the server stays online straight for at least 3 weeks, because then I'm willing to repay my donation and double the amount (if you want to take it). I just wanna see that this server becomes stable and gets what it deserves, an even better and bigger community.
€: hope you can figure out, what it is.
If you think you can run a server on £30 then go ahead :) you'll soon see the truth
http://main.jestservers.com/2010-05/rent-minecraft-dedicated-servers/ (http://main.jestservers.com/2010-05/rent-minecraft-dedicated-servers/)
30bucks a month
Hi, Jest servers are extremely overloaded and lag like hell. That's also 1gb for $30 per month do take in we have 6gb. I would also like to mention that there is a problem with our host and we are attempting to fix. As you may not know when we first bought Nerzhal we did not have these issues but when you joined Noobstown and donated the issue had just started. Also I shouted at you earlier for moaning at me on the forums and in game all the time you moan 24/7 I did not moan once about you requesting for a refund and I did not try and fight again the refund I simply gave you the money back. If you don't like the server and want to continually moan and be a B***h I don't want our current dontators or myself paying to keep you on the server.
*Facepalms* okay Joe. Goodbye noobstown
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I do feel for the donators that have paid and the server is in a mess at the moment but do take in mind I am also paying for this service and don't you think I am trying my god damn best to get it working for you all.
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Bye Nerzhal, sadly... won't be missed.
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^^^Win? +1
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ooooooo can i have his chest?//?????? just kidding....... : )
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I do feel for the donators that have paid and the server is in a mess at the moment but do take in mind I am also paying for this service and don't you think I am trying my god damn best to get it working for you all.
and thats why those of us that have done stuff like this in past endeavors love u lol.
my last deployment i ran a 50 person sat-alight internet so others could talk to people from home in their hooch and i got complaints all the time because some people wouldnt follow rules and wouldnt pay and blah blah. i will never do such a thing again. thats y ill help pay for a service now and i try not to gripe about things. but sometimes i just get angry. mostly cause of my laptop in all honesty haha.
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o_o *vvery serious face here* Nerzhal. FFS MAN! I don't like all these issues either, but i at least don't moan about it and yell my opinion. Yes, i donated to the server, and yes, i'm hellishly bored when the server is down, but that's the part of playing! This is the greates server i've been playing on, with great players and admins! I just don't get you. You're annoyed, fine, keep it to yourself. But if not, i'll send my kitty army at you.
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I do feel for the donators that have paid and the server is in a mess at the moment but do take in mind I am also paying for this service and don't you think I am trying my god damn best to get it working for you all.
and thats why those of us that have done stuff like this in past endeavors love u lol.
my last deployment i ran a 50 person sat-alight internet so others could talk to people from home in their hooch and i got complaints all the time because some people wouldnt follow rules and wouldnt pay and blah blah. i will never do such a thing again. thats y ill help pay for a service now and i try not to gripe about things. but sometimes i just get angry. mostly cause of my laptop in all honesty haha.
As ive told many MANY of my friends. Dont game with Laptops lol Gaming rigs are the way to go preferably custom made :D
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a donation is just that, a donation, its not like your buying something.
Its a gift, you should not expect something in return at all, look it up in the dictionary.
Taking back a gift is 'not done' were I come from.
Threatening not to give a gift back, is just, well, plain silly.
first: would you "donate" for something that doesnt work? I mean, I donated and 2 days later the server crashed etc. second: I've never threatened anyone.
Yes Nerzhal you would. Donating is funding a cause, helping it. By donating to Joe even if the server is broke, you are helping him to fix it.
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Yes Nerzhal you would. Donating is funding a cause, helping it. By donating to Joe even if the server is broke, you are helping him to fix it.
DAMN RIGHT!
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I miss Noobstown V1, before that ***** of a patch 1.5 :(
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I do feel for the donators that have paid and the server is in a mess at the moment but do take in mind I am also paying for this service and don't you think I am trying my god damn best to get it working for you all.
and thats why those of us that have done stuff like this in past endeavors love u lol.
my last deployment i ran a 50 person sat-alight internet so others could talk to people from home in their hooch and i got complaints all the time because some people wouldnt follow rules and wouldnt pay and blah blah. i will never do such a thing again. thats y ill help pay for a service now and i try not to gripe about things. but sometimes i just get angry. mostly cause of my laptop in all honesty haha.
As ive told many MANY of my friends. Dont game with Laptops lol Gaming rigs are the way to go preferably custom made :D
i got one but motherboard is bad and i cant find one to match the processor and the 2 ATI video cards for crossfire. so im just gonna have to build a new one come tax season if im not deployed lol. but in all honesty this laptop was amazing until i turned it in for something i could of fixed myelf in 20 mins but i didnt want to break warranty. so i turned it in and now its got the same issue and tons more since the day i got it back.... o well im gonna do it 2 more times and then claim a lemon and make them replace it haha
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I do feel for the donators that have paid and the server is in a mess at the moment but do take in mind I am also paying for this service and don't you think I am trying my god damn best to get it working for you all.
and thats why those of us that have done stuff like this in past endeavors love u lol.
my last deployment i ran a 50 person sat-alight internet so others could talk to people from home in their hooch and i got complaints all the time because some people wouldnt follow rules and wouldnt pay and blah blah. i will never do such a thing again. thats y ill help pay for a service now and i try not to gripe about things. but sometimes i just get angry. mostly cause of my laptop in all honesty haha.
As ive told many MANY of my friends. Dont game with Laptops lol Gaming rigs are the way to go preferably custom made :D
i got one but motherboard is bad and i cant find one to match the processor and the 2 ATI video cards for crossfire. so im just gonna have to build a new one come tax season if im not deployed lol. but in all honesty this laptop was amazing until i turned it in for something i could of fixed myelf in 20 mins but i didnt want to break warranty. so i turned it in and now its got the same issue and tons more since the day i got it back.... o well im gonna do it 2 more times and then claim a lemon and make them replace it haha
Lol Gaming rigs are the way to go nowadays... Wow we sure did go off topic...
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lol o well its ok im sure haha. but ya i know i know. and since i travel a ton i need a laptop as well. that and my wife doesnt see a desktop like i do lol. hooked up to my 52inch tv and lights off and just having a great time playing some mmo's
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Joe just won the ****ing world. <3
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Wow what a ****ty attitude Nerzhal
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As far as I'm concerned he can take his money and go TRY to find a better server. I'm 99.9% positive you won't find better admins or staff members. Yet again there is that .1% chance, so if you like those chances run with it, i wouldn't. I almost feel as if Joe spends more time fixing problems for us to have fun, and enjoy this amazing server, than he has time to play. Yea sure, i hate it when it lags and when we get rollbacks, but it's hard for someone to control that kind of problem when he isn't host. I'm sure Joe is learning things as he goes about this server. He doesn't know everything that may/can go wrong, so when something does go wrong he tries to find the problem and fix it as soon as he can. Yea sure i think hes godly, but hes human, which means hes not perfect. Give him a break and lay off a bit.
Much respect for Joe admins and staff members. You guys are the best out there.
Well know that i got that out, I'm going to go enjoy playing minecraft of the BEST server out there.
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i was about to be the idiot to post something about it not connecting, reason being because i havent been able to connect to the server. however, i noticed this fourm and read through it....
this is THE best server i have ever played on and dont plan on finding any others. so if ou guys want to be stupid and leave, so be it. but im going to have fun on this server.
agreed with raza.
praise to the staff and admins who help with the server while joe does maintenance.
if not for the admins and staff, we wouldnt have such a great server.
and if not for joe, we would be picking our noses trying to play single player and have fun...
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I think this topic got a little out of hand and I don't think anyone means any disrespect. I've only been here a few weeks and already feel like donating would be a good thing for the server. A lot of people on here put in a lot of time for nothing in return but the good experiences this server allows for, with or without lag. I know some of you (myself included) have spent many hours on these forums even when the servers were down. That shows commitment and community.
I've been planning to donate for quite a while, yesterday I even tried but my internet was down, my iPhone got all glitchy and I spent most of the night in tears from what was happening in the streets of Vancouver. I just sat down at my Macbook with intentions of donating now and I saw this thread.
I don't know everyone here all that well but I've found a community I enjoy and I'm willing to watch it improve over time. Remember, Minecraft is still in Beta, the server code is even younger and things like Bukkit are modifications developed by third parties who aren't even involved in production of the actual game.
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I also forgot, I've donated for open source software in beta before, neither because I felt like I should be entitled to something nor because I enjoyed any previous experiences; I donated because I saw potential in something people were doing and hoped that they would continue and enjoy themselves doing it. I believe the internet is made better by the people who are willing to take the risks.
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does this relate to why my computer goes down whenever i join Noobstown?
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Oh. So the problem is noobstown, I thought it was my computer :I
me too. my computer keeps going down when i join noobstown
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I agree with what mostly everyone was saying: This is one of the best (if not THE best) server/s out there, and have no plans to leave, even if it is down half the time. Oh, heres my reaction to it being down AGAIN. Dramatic Creeper (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quAhsbdjoPI#ws)
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Please stop arguing on this thread guys, thats not what the noobstown community is about, we are trying to sort out the problems as soon as possible and its not our fault so please be patient.
~ Waterworth