Portals can be bigger sizes!Will we be able to have normal portals and bigger portals on our wilderness chunk too? And can we see another live stream soon, I would like to know what kind of changes you have done since the last stream :D
and as for 1.7 there always will be new releases for bugs about a week after a big thing like 1.7, 1.6, etc. which means if we release right after 1.7 comes out( a week after to update plugins) a new version will be coming out right after and well have to wait even longer for them to update plugins again.
As it's already downloadable and not released, that's probably good news, due to the fact developers have probably been typing away before the update, and who knows, the plugins are probably released as soon as 1.7 is out, therefore v6 will come even fast!:Pand as for 1.7 there always will be new releases for bugs about a week after a big thing like 1.7, 1.6, etc. which means if we release right after 1.7 comes out( a week after to update plugins) a new version will be coming out right after and well have to wait even longer for them to update plugins again.
Maybe you should go look at the changelog before saying that each minor version (the number after the 1.) brings the same amount of changes.
Also, 1.7 is already downloadable.
i meant every version like 1.6, 1.5 ended up having a change so it made it 1.6.2, 1.5.2, if that what u meant.and as for 1.7 there always will be new releases for bugs about a week after a big thing like 1.7, 1.6, etc. which means if we release right after 1.7 comes out( a week after to update plugins) a new version will be coming out right after and well have to wait even longer for them to update plugins again.
Maybe you should go look at the changelog before saying that each minor version (the number after the 1.) brings the same amount of changes.
Also, 1.7 is already downloadable.
i meant every version like 1.6, 1.5 ended up having a change so it made it 1.6.2, 1.5.2, if that what u meant.
it was only suppose to be one week but it turned out to be almost 2 months. I don't know guys I might not be comin backYou'd be more upset if the server opened on the same day and it had to be closed again due to bugs and glitches which affect the economy or something, leaving now would mean the time you spent waiting so far would be wasted, stick around a little longer.
it was only suppose to be one week but it turned out to be almost 2 months. I don't know guys I might not be comin back
it was only suppose to be one week but it turned out to be almost 2 months. I don't know guys I might not be comin back
ik how they can make it up to us....DROP PARTY!! tons of spawners and sponges and...hm idk what else u cant get unless u SPAWN EGGS,almost forgot about that sorry for interrupting myself in the middle of my sentence XDit was only suppose to be one week but it turned out to be almost 2 months. I don't know guys I might not be comin back
Just give it a little more time. Like Jay said it's better if they do it this way rather than open the server and then have all these bugs and have to keep closing down the server. We also have to keep in mind, and Foob has mentioned this before....this is their HOBBY and they do have school and lives...when the server is back up and running it will be better than ever and it'll be worth the wait. I'm sure Foob and the admins have something up their sleeves to make it up to us....I just have this hunch. :) Hang in there!
Cheer up everyone. You should have better things to do than being sad, sulking, or bored. Go play somewhere else or enjoy the beautiful fall weather outside (if you're not in Florida) while you wait. I've been having a great time playing elsewhere.
I used to work with a guy named Ralph Barksdale. I used to see him and say, "How you doing Ralph?" He'd say, "Trading heartbeats for dollars." Let me ask you, what are you trading your heartbeats for?
Max
*hissssss at sunlight*...
Cheer up everyone. You should have better things to do than being sad, sulking, or bored. Go play somewhere else or enjoy the beautiful fall weather outside (if you're not in Florida) while you wait. I've been having a great time playing elsewhere.
Max
Cheer up everyone. You should have better things to do than being sad, sulking, or bored. Go play somewhere else or enjoy the beautiful fall weather outside (if you're not in Florida) while you wait. I've been having a great time playing elsewhere.
I used to work with a guy named Ralph Barksdale. I used to see him and say, "How you doing Ralph?" He'd say, "Trading heartbeats for dollars." Let me ask you, what are you trading your heartbeats for?
Max
This stinks, Maybe a smaller Just event world? Winners of events inside of that world can get Tokens perhaps?
Anything they were to do now would just delay the opening even more. With the server offline they can dedicate all the time they have to gathering informations and testing stuff instead of having to take care of players and related problems.
And 1.7.1 is already out :P
:( I am really loosing my patience..
Let me start by saying I am glad not to be in the admins shoes, must have been a tough call.
But I do feel its the wrong call.....
Pushing back the already delayed release of V6 and making it dependent on the release of 1.7 is a major letdown, to me anyway.
I say, just release V6 using 1.6.x with the tested plugings, dont let all that test work go to waist.
Then inform the community that 1.7 will be implemented at a set date somewhere in December.
That buys you time to test 1.7, even if if its delayed by Mojang or Bukkit and allows the community to play the long awaited V6.
Having a day, or 2 downtime in December is more acceptable, to me anyway then having to wait longer now.
Not to mention missing out on Noobsween.
I feel to many promises are broken with this decision, and I am left disappointed.
We are not customers, even those of us who donate. If we were customers, "donating" would not be called "donating".Man, this nails it. Even the word "supporter" carries the idea of helping out and not necessarily expecting things back. If we were customers, we'd be "purchasing."
- ...Talk to a real life person! xDReal persons? Won't they bite?
Only when I am hungry- ...Talk to a real life person! xDReal persons? Won't they bite?
Only when I am hungry- ...Talk to a real life person! xDReal persons? Won't they bite?
Don't look into his eyes, it might provoke him. Carefully move back now - ok slowly - now close the door! I told you not to go outside! There are persons out there and you know that reality is not good for you!You're real? :OOnly when I am hungry- ...Talk to a real life person! xDReal persons? Won't they bite?
We are not customers, even those of us who donate. If we were customers, "donating" would not be called "donating".
is it just me or does anyone else not feel like joining v6 ?
By releasing in 1.6.4 we'd still have to work towards the 1.7 update anyway, because we can't stay on 1.6.4 forever then we'd have test everything for 1.7 and then the server would be up and down again. This would not only spoil the experience of v6 but cause you to have further delays when starting your new homes or towns it wouldn't work. We'd prefer to work for a steady 1.7 release with everything fully supported and then it can be left up for the entire Christmas holidays.Additionally opening now with 1.6.4 would mean that the V6(1.6.4)server could probably not include the 11 new 1.7 biomes (and their new blocks) like Savannah (Acacia wood), Mesa (red sand and naturally occuring coloured hardened clay), MegaTaiga (Podzol blocks and naturally occuring mossy stone) roofed forest (dark oak wood), spiked Ice (packed ice), ... So we would miss out a good chance to find a nice first home in one of those biomes.
is it just me or does anyone else not feel like joining v6 ?
All depends on the final details regarding wilderness land. I couldn't care less about anything else. Those details will determine whether I will continue to be regular player or not.
Max
is it just me or does anyone else not feel like joining v6 ?
I'm gonna be honest here, anyone wanting to leave the server because of this specific announcement isn't truly devoted to the server. You aren't paying for this server, unless you're donating, and even then you're paying for it because you want to, not because you HAVE to. Show some gratitude people.I agree with your first point, BUT the second one is just not right, yes its not completely the admins fault but they should know that 1.7 is coming out soon, if there are snapshots of 1.7, then its meaning that the new version is close to release, so i don`t understand why the admins make post that V6 will released today, if they know that soon 1.7 be out, and they will need to take the server back to maintenance after the 1.7 release.
First off, the Staff Team, most notably the Admins, all have busy lives. All of the current moderators and admins are either busy fathers or are in college (which for those who have never been to college before, takes up a great deal of time for most students). Try to see where they're coming from. College is pretty much like a full time job, and so is parenting.
Second, this time, it was out of the control of the admins. Mojang is releasing a new major update (emphasis on the MAJOR, as this is the largest patch in the history of the game). If the server were released last weekend as planned, all of the new content, especially the new biomes, wouldn't be there and probably would NEVER be there until another major update. Additionally, they're creating CUSTOM plugins. These aren't just server plugins that they can just download and set up in a matter of hours, they're literally creating programs from the ground up, which can take days, even weeks to complete. And because 1.7 is arriving soon, there's no way that these plugins could be completed alongside the new release.
All I ask is that some of you read between the lines and actually see why it's taking so long. These things aren't simple. At all.
I agree with your first point, BUT the second one is just not right, yes its not completely the admins fault but they should know that 1.7 is coming out soon, if there are snapshots of 1.7, then its meaning that the new version is close to release, so i don`t understand why the admins make post that V6 will released today, if they know that soon 1.7 be out, and they will need to take the server back to maintenance after the 1.7 release.
Well, listen, i say that i have NO problem to wait more time (even if V6 will be out in next summer), and that i don`t see the point why THEY WANTED to release V6 in 1.6 when they knew that 1.7 soon will be outand they will need to update it again.I agree with your first point, BUT the second one is just not right, yes its not completely the admins fault but they should know that 1.7 is coming out soon, if there are snapshots of 1.7, then its meaning that the new version is close to release, so i don`t understand why the admins make post that V6 will released today, if they know that soon 1.7 be out, and they will need to take the server back to maintenance after the 1.7 release.
You don't have the slightest idea of what you're talking about.
They can't run the server AND update it at the same time.
They couldn't release V6 earlier because they didn't have time to do it (and they're doing it for free)
They surely guessed 1.7 was coming out... and? Should they have obtained stable 1.7 code before Mojang even released it?
Updating a living server would mean having to waste time double-checking for world generation problems, corruption, ruined builds, etc.
They did what's best in terms of efficiency given the resources they had. Stop whining.
Everyone complaining about V6 being delayed just simply has to find something else to take up their time, not sit around and wait, cause that is very pointless, cause you're pretty much sitting their doing nothing, which isn't good for you, go outside, play other games, something that may take up your time, and maybe get your mind off V6, it isn't that hard to do so.what miner said...
I understand some might not have the option to do much else, but sitting here on the forum, complaining almost every day, or saying things like Olah0001 did "is it just me or does anyone else not feel like joining v6 ?", is not needed and wont get you anywhere, if you don't want to join V6, go ahead, nobody is stopping you, but you would have wasted a good deal of your time waiting for it, so the point of quiting now is very small.
That is all I had to say.
Well, listen, i say that i have NO problem to wait more time (even if V6 will be out in next summer), and that i don`t see the point why THEY WANTED to release V6 in 1.6 when they knew that 1.7 soon will be outand they will need to update it again.I agree with your first point, BUT the second one is just not right, yes its not completely the admins fault but they should know that 1.7 is coming out soon, if there are snapshots of 1.7, then its meaning that the new version is close to release, so i don`t understand why the admins make post that V6 will released today, if they know that soon 1.7 be out, and they will need to take the server back to maintenance after the 1.7 release.
You don't have the slightest idea of what you're talking about.
They can't run the server AND update it at the same time.
They couldn't release V6 earlier because they didn't have time to do it (and they're doing it for free)
They surely guessed 1.7 was coming out... and? Should they have obtained stable 1.7 code before Mojang even released it?
Updating a living server would mean having to waste time double-checking for world generation problems, corruption, ruined builds, etc.
They did what's best in terms of efficiency given the resources they had. Stop whining.
So next time, please before commenting against something that never have been wrote by me, READ the whole comment...
I agree with your first point, BUT the second one is just not right, yes its not completely the admins fault but they should know that 1.7 is coming out soon, if there are snapshots of 1.7, then its meaning that the new version is close to release, so i don`t understand why the admins make post that V6 will released today, if they know that soon 1.7 be out, and they will need to take the server back to maintenance after the 1.7 release.
You don't have the slightest idea of what you're talking about.
They can't run the server AND update it at the same time.
They couldn't release V6 earlier because they didn't have time to do it (and they're doing it for free)
They surely guessed 1.7 was coming out... and? Should they have obtained stable 1.7 code before Mojang even released it?
Updating a living server would mean having to waste time double-checking for world generation problems, corruption, ruined builds, etc.
They did what's best in terms of efficiency given the resources they had. Stop whining.
I don't think you recognize the shear size of the server, the map alone is memory busting, imagine having to import it every few days after they'd fixed some bugs, it just isn't convenient. Oh and where is the sense in letting people play the bugged version whilst they fixed it on another database? Like, that's the whole point.. they don't want anything exploitable or rule breaking to be released, they want a nice clean start to v6 with minimal problems to fix.I agree with your first point, BUT the second one is just not right, yes its not completely the admins fault but they should know that 1.7 is coming out soon, if there are snapshots of 1.7, then its meaning that the new version is close to release, so i don`t understand why the admins make post that V6 will released today, if they know that soon 1.7 be out, and they will need to take the server back to maintenance after the 1.7 release.
You don't have the slightest idea of what you're talking about.
They can't run the server AND update it at the same time.
They couldn't release V6 earlier because they didn't have time to do it (and they're doing it for free)
They surely guessed 1.7 was coming out... and? Should they have obtained stable 1.7 code before Mojang even released it?
Updating a living server would mean having to waste time double-checking for world generation problems, corruption, ruined builds, etc.
They did what's best in terms of efficiency given the resources they had. Stop whining.
It's not that hard to duplicate a server and then work on that to test your new potentially world-breaking coding. So yes, you can work on a server and run it at the same time.
It's not that hard to duplicate a server and then work on that to test your new potentially world-breaking coding. So yes, you can work on a server and run it at the same time.
It's not that hard to duplicate a server and then work on that to test your new potentially world-breaking coding. So yes, you can work on a server and run it at the same time.
Of course data can be duplicated but you need someone to work on it after that >_>
The admins can't do both things at the same time.
If it was that simple they wouldn't even need to take down V5 to begin with.
As it sits however, 1.7 will be a rather large update for quite a lot of mods. As I said before, Minecraft has changed a lot. Which means Mods themselves will take a while to update. We are trying to get Forge out as soon as we can for mods to start, but don't expect any major mods to be updated until possibly December.
It feels like we’ve been working on this for a year now, with more than half a million lines of code changed over 1,104 commits we’ve been working extremely hard on this update. We’re calling this one “The update that changed the world”, because it really has in two different ways; there’s over twice the amount of ingame biomes, and we’ve overhauled lots of the code preparing for the plugin API.That plugin API is going to mean Minecraft code that will not need to be overwritten to create plugins, and Mojang doesn't have to worry about breaking mods for weeks or more with every content release.
Just thought I'd mention this, on teamspeak Lawrence stated that the worlds were generated in the snapshots so they already had the new biomes in them.
Why not require that everyone play on 1.6 with the server launch, since the new Minecraft launcher supports easy version switching?
Are the fighting still going on...? -.-
Why not require that everyone play on 1.6 with the server launch, since the new Minecraft launcher supports easy version switching?
Because of the same reasons already posted (and not just by me) ?
I mean, if a major mod team is saying it could take 2 months, why do you assume that Foob&Co are going to be as fast as that (or faster) while also having to handle a running server?
The API is also another good reason to invest time beforehand and be up to date instead of developing already obsolete stuff, imo. (assuming the API works and isn't garbage)
id still like someone in the know to explain how they can generate a world from a snapshot and have all the mods working and ready to go?
my prediction is that they will throw up v6 and announce that there building a new world for 1.72 and we will get that in a few months after dangling the carrot.....
I appreciate all the hard work from fat noob and his help and really enjoy the server but it feels moor like we get hand me down worlds....after they built what they wanted....
there is a great community here of minecrafters ,whom I believe would be more than happy to to play on a server that didn't have a luxurious starting town/spawn.. its not how pretty your world is its the players that play on the server that make it great.
Are the fighting still going on...? -.-
lol apparently. but everyone stop raging about this delay. its here. its happened. just stop fighting and raging, be quiet and get on with your lives. sorry if i sound mean and/or trollish. but seriously people. come on...COME ON! this is out of control!
Just thought I'd mention this, on teamspeak Lawrence stated that the worlds were generated in the snapshots so they already had the new biomes in them.
Having a constructive conversation (in this circumstance) is about discussing things that could be of value to the Admins. A non-constructive conversation is unproductive, can be hurtful, and is uncalled for.
If they had it working under 1.6, then launching under 1.6 sounds so much easier for everyone, not just the players.
the fastest way would be release 1.72 vanilla and ad the mods as there available ,so basically were waiting on them to save their work and stuff they built by waiting for them to update the mods....
the fastest way would be release 1.72 vanilla and ad the mods as there available ,so basically were waiting on them to save their work and stuff they built by waiting for them to update the mods....
I am quite fond of the professionalism this server runs by. Your suggestion doesn't seem anything near the style that this admin crew runs by. They change things as they see fit and when needed only, and they release a server that is ready to go. While it sounds like a good idea, the members of this server can find that haphazard way of running a server anywhere else. This server is downright the best there is, and I only fear people will lose interest if they wait more than a month or two of downtime before they can play on it again.
I will be loyal. This is the first Minecraft server I ever played on. This will be the last. My wife already finds my obsession with this wonderful game to be silly, but we allow each other our free time. I just hope I don't continue to waste my free time elsewhere, waiting months and months for my favorite server to my favorite game to come back online.
Fatnoob said on Mineapoc that hes just waiting for bukkit 1.7 to come out :B
100th comment. 8)lol everyone is talking about the topic then the OP/admin posts the 100th comment noob comment. :3
100th comment. 8)
100th comment. 8)Stay on topic please or Waterworth might have to ban you.
100th comment. 8)lol everyone is talking about the topic then the OP/admin posts the 100th comment noob comment. :3
Tweet from Bukkit :
@EvilSeph 10 Nov
While we will have @CraftBukkit dev builds, there are issues in Minecraft we can't fix that may prevent us from getting anything stable out.
Well so much for V6... I waited so damn long just to get disappointed time after time again... First by the admins on delaying the release so long (understandable but it took months longer than it was supposed to) and now this bull... I'm starting to get seriously ticked off nowHarry they are doing this for free. The world dosent revolve around minecraft. Go out and expanded your game library (like I have) play games on steam or the new next gen consoles. noobscraft will be public soon. It's not the admins fault. Heck I bet they are ticked off at how long this is taking.
Well so much for V6... I waited so damn long just to get disappointed time after time again... First by the admins on delaying the release so long (understandable but it took months longer than it was supposed to) and now this bull... I'm starting to get seriously ticked off nowHarry they are doing this for free. The world dosent revolve around minecraft. Go out and expanded your game library (like I have) play games on steam or the new next gen consoles. noobscraft will be public soon. It's not the admins fault. Heck I bet they are ticked off at how long this is taking.
The longer you lot wait, the greater it shall be.Says the guy who never actually plays the server, comes on the forums to post a few and then disappears again lol.
I'll just take my optimism elsewhere then!k bye geo ;)
I'll just take my optimism elsewhere then!k bye geo ;)