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_youngt

Re: V6 Token Program
« Reply #25 on: 19 Mar 2013, 06:34:59 »
For the building contest I have 2 questions:

- When is the contests??

- Are we gonna be in creative mode for it?

For the veteran rank thing:

Is the top 100 of all time gonna receive it? or the top 100 until the world gets reset?
I could be wrong, but I think it is all of V5

_youngt

Re: V6 Token Program
« Reply #26 on: 19 Mar 2013, 06:37:35 »
I veteran earned by playing now, to v6, or like all of v5

Jayjay36

Re: V6 Token Program
« Reply #27 on: 19 Mar 2013, 08:19:51 »
I'm pretty much dreading this.. I really don't like the thought of losing the Veteran title :/.

You probably wont lose it :p
There's a big chance that I will lose it though, 80%. I hardly play and there's other people who are on 24/7. It's selfish for me to say, but Veteran was used to thank the people who donated before this version, I assumed it was because the donation benefits back then it  was a lifetime of VIP so I assumed the Veteran title was there to carry on that benefit.

No, No, No... what I mean with "you probably wont lose it" is that cause you have Veteran now, the new form of Veteran will be a different kind of Veteran, so does that are Veteran now, will still be Veteran in V6, but they will have a different form of Veteran, then the once that earn Veteran now, not to long before the restart.. :3

God, I don't think I said "Veteran" in one massive sentence so many times in my whole life.

VETERAN! VETERAN! VETERAN! And we can't forget... VETERAN!
This isn't how it works. I was talking to Foob about it and he was telling me that the new Veteran system will replace the old, meaning I'd become a normal member again if I didn't play to earn the title :/.

Miner_man123456

Re: V6 Token Program
« Reply #28 on: 19 Mar 2013, 09:49:11 »
I'm pretty much dreading this.. I really don't like the thought of losing the Veteran title :/.

You probably wont lose it :p
There's a big chance that I will lose it though, 80%. I hardly play and there's other people who are on 24/7. It's selfish for me to say, but Veteran was used to thank the people who donated before this version, I assumed it was because the donation benefits back then it  was a lifetime of VIP so I assumed the Veteran title was there to carry on that benefit.

No, No, No... what I mean with "you probably wont lose it" is that cause you have Veteran now, the new form of Veteran will be a different kind of Veteran, so does that are Veteran now, will still be Veteran in V6, but they will have a different form of Veteran, then the once that earn Veteran now, not to long before the restart.. :3

God, I don't think I said "Veteran" in one massive sentence so many times in my whole life.

VETERAN! VETERAN! VETERAN! And we can't forget... VETERAN!
This isn't how it works. I was talking to Foob about it and he was telling me that the new Veteran system will replace the old, meaning I'd become a normal member again if I didn't play to earn the title :/.

That is kinda bad... if I got to say my true feeling :/

Dopehead_NL

Re: V6 Token Program
« Reply #29 on: 19 Mar 2013, 12:16:37 »
This isn't how it works. I was talking to Foob about it and he was telling me that the new Veteran system will replace the old, meaning I'd become a normal member again if I didn't play to earn the title :/.

Joe, can you confirm, or better deny this statement ?

I am so proud of my veteran title, I would hate to lose it.
When we were given the Veteran title I assumed it was because we had shown trust in the noobscraft team by donating when they needed it most, at startup.
I guess I could even be ok with veterans being stripped of their VIP powers, since other VIPS have to pay on a regular base for it,
but please let us players of the early hours keep the exclusive Veteran title.

Based on a dictionary lookup I suggest a different title for people who put in many hours.
(The dictionary shows very clear how different both titles are, by the way)

vet·er·an
[vet-er-uhn, ve-truhn]
noun
1. experienced through long service or practice; having served for a long period.

ad·dict
[n. ad-ikt; v. uh-dikt]
noun
1.a person who is addicted to an activity, habit, or substance.

If addict has to much of a negative load, I suggest : noobaholic.
« Last Edit: 19 Mar 2013, 12:31:30 by Dopehead_NL »

Miner_man123456

Re: V6 Token Program
« Reply #30 on: 19 Mar 2013, 12:45:21 »
This isn't how it works. I was talking to Foob about it and he was telling me that the new Veteran system will replace the old, meaning I'd become a normal member again if I didn't play to earn the title :/.

Joe, can you confirm, or better deny this statement ?

I am so proud of my veteran title, I would hate to lose it.
When we were given the Veteran title I assumed it was because we had shown trust in the noobscraft team by donating when they needed it most, at startup.
I guess I could even be ok with veterans being stripped of their VIP powers, since other VIPS have to pay on a regular base for it,
but please let us players of the early hours keep the exclusive Veteran title.

Based on a dictionary lookup I suggest a different title for people who put in many hours.
(The dictionary shows very clear how different both titles are, by the way)

vet·er·an
[vet-er-uhn, ve-truhn]
noun
1. experienced through long service or practice; having served for a long period.

ad·dict
[n. ad-ikt; v. uh-dikt]
noun
1.a person who is addicted to an activity, habit, or substance.

If addict has to much of a negative load, I suggest : noobaholic.


I agree to this, I might not be a Veteran, but making them be active on the server to keep their Veteran title, after they actually did pay for it is kinda bad, I am not even sure where this whole statement came from in the first place, I never read anything about it only being 1 Veteran rank.

Dopehead_NL

Re: V6 Token Program
« Reply #31 on: 19 Mar 2013, 12:53:37 »
Hang on, we did not pay for the Veteran title, it was a gift !
I have always understood it was given to us because we believed enough in the future of this server to donate way back.
No way I would ever claim to have the right to the title veteran, its up to the noobscraft team to give the title to players.

Miner_man123456

Re: V6 Token Program
« Reply #32 on: 19 Mar 2013, 13:38:42 »
Hang on, we did not pay for the Veteran title, it was a gift !
I have always understood it was given to us because we believed enough in the future of this server to donate way back.
No way I would ever claim to have the right to the title veteran, its up to the noobscraft team to give the title to players.

All Veteran people were given that rank cause back then, VIP were life time, therefor taking away the VIP rank would mean taking away something they have paid for, that is what I meant.

At least this is what I have heard.

Dopehead_NL

Re: V6 Token Program
« Reply #33 on: 19 Mar 2013, 14:07:43 »
It seems you are correct, dear sir,

Found this in the archives :

When we originally set up the Veteran rank it was not to reward our long term players it was as a way to ensure that those members who Donated to us before we updated the donation system received a fair reward for what they were originally told they would receive. This happened to match the beginning of V5 as this was when we introduced the automated donations and Points system.

The term "Veteran" was probably not the best term we could have selected, as it seems to be causing some confusion these days. Taking a definition of the term isn't an explanation of how we have used the word. But back when it was introduced (and still) it has nothing to do with how long you have played. Not to say this may or may not change in the future.

Being a Veteran isn't even the top level any more since our latest VIP upgrade Veterans are actually able to upgrade their account to include new VIP features such as the warps, chest/workbench access, increased McMMO, etc.
« Last Edit: 19 Mar 2013, 15:53:37 by Dopehead_NL »

Foob

Re: V6 Token Program
« Reply #34 on: 19 Mar 2013, 16:20:51 »
Regarding Old Veterans,

All old veterans will be moved to the new rank, we are just giving 100+ people the chance to join the rank in v6.

Miner_man123456

Re: V6 Token Program
« Reply #35 on: 19 Mar 2013, 16:30:55 »
Regarding Old Veterans,

All old veterans will be moved to the new rank, we are just giving 100+ people the chance to join the rank in v6.

Fair enough, I am not a veteran in the first place, but I know a lot of people that is :3 So I think it would suck for them to lose their rank, but as they wont, it is all good! :)

goldenelite123

Re: V6 Token Program
« Reply #36 on: 19 Mar 2013, 16:43:16 »
This will be fun and thanks for admins. I usually play this server 2 hrs and in holidays i usually play 4 hrs :p I can't wait for the v6!!

Dopehead_NL

Re: V6 Token Program
« Reply #37 on: 19 Mar 2013, 18:16:35 »
Regarding Old Veterans,

All old veterans will be moved to the new rank, we are just giving 100+ people the chance to join the rank in v6.

I feel re-assured, thank you Joe.

SmithB0118

Re: V6 Token Program
« Reply #38 on: 19 Mar 2013, 19:52:01 »
So everything that we've had for such great periods of time will be gone? Houses, items, towns that people have raised loads of money for, etc.? Tokens sound great but i do hope that V6 will be just as good if not better than V5.

Dyavolia

Re: V6 Token Program
« Reply #39 on: 19 Mar 2013, 20:26:39 »
So everything that we've had for such great periods of time will be gone? Houses, items, towns that people have raised loads of money for, etc.? Tokens sound great but i do hope that V6 will be just as good if not better than V5.

Yes, everything. But the change is for the best  :)

8BitCarpenter

Re: V6 Token Program
« Reply #40 on: 19 Mar 2013, 20:45:54 »
I must applaud the staff for their efforts to make this reset/upgrade as easily adopted and accepted as possible.
We could all be losing everything, most servers wouldnt even bat an eye lash at this thought.
Thank you Noobscraft. You really put your community ahead of everything else.

Side note: Noobaholic or even PixelAddict would be acceptable titles instead of veteran. (Im sure we can all admit a lil addiction to our pixels :)

daniel_blackwood

Re: V6 Token Program
« Reply #41 on: 19 Mar 2013, 21:23:51 »
So, is there any way to tell if you are in the top 100? Cause I think I might be but I probably am not. I mean, i've been playing on here since early V2, and I have tons of in game time, i mean, I'm no mrfloris but I think I play a heck of a lot on this server, especially since i quit school. So, just wondering, can we have the list of people who might be in the top 100?

Foob

Re: V6 Token Program
« Reply #42 on: 19 Mar 2013, 21:37:06 »
So, is there any way to tell if you are in the top 100? Cause I think I might be but I probably am not. I mean, i've been playing on here since early V2, and I have tons of in game time, i mean, I'm no mrfloris but I think I play a heck of a lot on this server, especially since i quit school. So, just wondering, can we have the list of people who might be in the top 100?

Yes, the page will be released later tonight.

Miner_man123456

Re: V6 Token Program
« Reply #43 on: 19 Mar 2013, 22:27:47 »
So, is there any way to tell if you are in the top 100? Cause I think I might be but I probably am not. I mean, i've been playing on here since early V2, and I have tons of in game time, i mean, I'm no mrfloris but I think I play a heck of a lot on this server, especially since i quit school. So, just wondering, can we have the list of people who might be in the top 100?

Yes, the page will be released later tonight.
That's good to know, I suggest to consider lowering the idle kick time to 15 minutes for the last few months, preventing people from being afk pretending to be active. Best of luck everybody, it will be exciting to get veteran on the new server.

If you get it...!

Oh wait.. x_x

sombrerodude

Re: V6 Token Program
« Reply #44 on: 20 Mar 2013, 00:08:53 »
So, is there any way to tell if you are in the top 100? Cause I think I might be but I probably am not. I mean, i've been playing on here since early V2, and I have tons of in game time, i mean, I'm no mrfloris but I think I play a heck of a lot on this server, especially since i quit school. So, just wondering, can we have the list of people who might be in the top 100?

Yes, the page will be released later tonight.
That's good to know, I suggest to consider lowering the idle kick time to 15 minutes for the last few months, preventing people from being afk pretending to be active. Best of luck everybody, it will be exciting to get veteran on the new server.
They just implemented a 5 min kick time a little low I think becuas some pepole like to talk without moveing

ItsLawrence

Re: V6 Token Program
« Reply #45 on: 20 Mar 2013, 00:33:16 »
You can now view a range of information regarding Tokens, the current most active players of the week and the 100 most active overall at http://www.noobscraft.com/tokens

Miner_man123456

Re: V6 Token Program
« Reply #46 on: 20 Mar 2013, 03:30:45 »
I seriously hate the "Be active to earn Tokens" ... it just doesn't work for me, in any way.

If the top 10 most active on the server is gone get a bunch of buff's at the start of the V6, I just lost all faith in the new version, and I will tell simply my opinion on the whole "Be active to earn yourself stuff" idea...

1: People got stuff to do outside of Minecraft, and people also are less wanting to play now cause they know it will pointless, as all their stuff will be gone anyways.

2: By giving a buff to the top 10 active players, once V6 starts, is like giving a million to someone who is already a millionaire, cause they are a lot on the server, they got more time using their V6 starting buff, which makes them get far ahead of everyone else, as they got the buff, and they are also more active, you see what I mean?

3: People can easily AFK their way to the top, it is ways to cheat the "AFK kick system" I am sure, and many probably know how to.

That is really all my points, being given lots of tokens cause you are on the server a lot, cause you don't have anything important to attend to, like school, work etc.. is it really no other way to make this system work in a more fair way..?

I seriously hope so.. :/

sombrerodude

Re: V6 Token Program
« Reply #47 on: 20 Mar 2013, 04:06:56 »
I seriously hate the "Be active to earn Tokens" ... it just doesn't work for me, in any way.

If the top 10 most active on the server is gone get a bunch of buff's at the start of the V6, I just lost all faith in the new version, and I will tell simply my opinion on the whole "Be active to earn yourself stuff" idea...

1: People got stuff to do outside of Minecraft, and people also are less wanting to play now cause they know it will pointless, as all their stuff will be gone anyways.

2: By giving a buff to the top 10 active players, once V6 starts, is like giving a million to someone who is already a millionaire, cause they are a lot on the server, they got more time using their V6 starting buff, which makes them get far ahead of everyone else, as they got the buff, and they are also more active, you see what I mean?

3: People can easily AFK their way to the top, it is ways to cheat the "AFK kick system" I am sure, and many probably know how to.

That is really all my points, being given lots of tokens cause you are on the server a lot, cause you don't have anything important to attend to, like school, work etc.. is it really no other way to make this system work in a more fair way..?

I seriously hope so.. :/

What miner said about cheating the afk kick is true you could make an afk fountain so you couldn't get kicked

ItsLawrence

Re: V6 Token Program
« Reply #48 on: 20 Mar 2013, 04:09:38 »
I seriously hate the "Be active to earn Tokens" ... it just doesn't work for me, in any way.

If the top 10 most active on the server is gone get a bunch of buff's at the start of the V6, I just lost all faith in the new version, and I will tell simply my opinion on the whole "Be active to earn yourself stuff" idea...

1: People got stuff to do outside of Minecraft, and people also are less wanting to play now cause they know it will pointless, as all their stuff will be gone anyways.

2: By giving a buff to the top 10 active players, once V6 starts, is like giving a million to someone who is already a millionaire, cause they are a lot on the server, they got more time using their V6 starting buff, which makes them get far ahead of everyone else, as they got the buff, and they are also more active, you see what I mean?

3: People can easily AFK their way to the top, it is ways to cheat the "AFK kick system" I am sure, and many probably know how to.

That is really all my points, being given lots of tokens cause you are on the server a lot, cause you don't have anything important to attend to, like school, work etc.. is it really no other way to make this system work in a more fair way..?

I seriously hope so.. :/


Firstly I'd like to add that those users who receive and collect Tokens won't be given a "bunch of buffs" as you put it; the Tokens are there to give players a helping hand with items such as tools and blocks when the server is first released. Once we are aware how many total Tokens have been awarded we can set a fair exchange rate between them and the items you can gain.

  • We are completely aware that people don't want to constantly spend their time on Noobstown and this is why we are offering a range of ways to actually "earn" Tokens: every week between now and the release of V6 the 10 most active players from that week will receive a prize, yes; but we are also going to offer the option to earn these Tokens through events and competitions between now and the release!
  • The system is designed to reward activity on the server and ensure that these last few months aren't played in vain. As I already explained above the actual rewards (items/blocks which will be redeemable in V6) will be fairly priced once we are aware of how many actual Tokens have been collected by everyone. The Tokens are fairly allocated to all who are most active and so between now and the release everyone on Noobstown has an equal chance to earn the same number of Tokens as any other user.
  • Whilst our calculation does include 'simply being online' the ordering of the users in the "Most Active" is weighted according to a variety of different factors of which many cannot be simply "cheated" as you claim. Also any user who is caught "cheating" the system will be removed from Token system and won't receive any rewards; plus it will be seen as breaking the exploitation rule and will they be punished accordingly.

I can understand your concern but this system has been introduced to give a fair way for players to get a helping hand at the beginning of V6 for their current actions in V5.9.

Foob

Re: V6 Token Program
« Reply #49 on: 20 Mar 2013, 08:19:54 »
I seriously hate the "Be active to earn Tokens" ... it just doesn't work for me, in any way.

If the top 10 most active on the server is gone get a bunch of buff's at the start of the V6, I just lost all faith in the new version, and I will tell simply my opinion on the whole "Be active to earn yourself stuff" idea...

1: People got stuff to do outside of Minecraft, and people also are less wanting to play now cause they know it will pointless, as all their stuff will be gone anyways.

2: By giving a buff to the top 10 active players, once V6 starts, is like giving a million to someone who is already a millionaire, cause they are a lot on the server, they got more time using their V6 starting buff, which makes them get far ahead of everyone else, as they got the buff, and they are also more active, you see what I mean?

3: People can easily AFK their way to the top, it is ways to cheat the "AFK kick system" I am sure, and many probably know how to.

That is really all my points, being given lots of tokens cause you are on the server a lot, cause you don't have anything important to attend to, like school, work etc.. is it really no other way to make this system work in a more fair way..?

I seriously hope so.. :/

Miner,

As I have already mentioned activity is the straight forward route to earn tokens. However, there will be plenty of other opportunitys to earn them such as events and competitions. We are also going to give out veteranship to dedicated members that join in with our events and such also.