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Noobstown => Towns & Nations => Topic started by: EttaDreamfeather on 8 Apr 2012, 07:32:12
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Join the town DragonFire today! Lots of friendly people, as well as two extremely generous and helpful TA's. TidalMewMew and myself, TwistedLover.
The Mayor, DragonSoulSong, has some internet troubles, but not to worry. He gets on every so often, and Tidal and I take care of the town as if he was never gone.
Some pictures of the town:
Spawn-
http://puu.sh/ouks (http://puu.sh/ouks)
Dragon Hill up on spawn-
http://puu.sh/oulq (http://puu.sh/oulq)
Dragon Heads around town-
http://puu.sh/outF (http://puu.sh/outF)
http://puu.sh/outT (http://puu.sh/outT)
http://puu.sh/ouup (http://puu.sh/ouup)
Town Assets:
Wheat Farm-
http://puu.sh/ouxV (http://puu.sh/ouxV)
Melon/Pumpkin Farm-
http://puu.sh/ouyK (http://puu.sh/ouyK)
Cactus Farm-
http://puu.sh/ouz5 (http://puu.sh/ouz5)
Tree Farm-
http://puu.sh/ouAk (http://puu.sh/ouAk)
Sugar Cane Farm-
http://puu.sh/ouAv (http://puu.sh/ouAv)
Pig Farm-
http://puu.sh/ouCS (http://puu.sh/ouCS)
Chicken Farm-
Filled with pigs until the mob spawner can be changed to spawn chicken
Sheep Farm-
Waiting for the sheep spawning problem to be fixed, have two spawners installed for when you can change spawner types.
http://puu.sh/ouCx (http://puu.sh/ouCx)
Monster EXP Farm-
It's not from a spawner, so you get both EXP for levels as well as your MCMMO abilities
http://puu.sh/ouHr (http://puu.sh/ouHr)
Enchanting Room-
Guaranteed to give up to level 50 enchantments
Cobble Generator-
Just near town on the way to the NPC village that's been restored.
NPC Village-
Newly restored thanks to DwarfLeon and AlbatrosV5
To New Members
-Every new member gets a starting payment of 1,000
-New members also get starting kits to help them get started on the server
Rules
-Do not grief.
-Do not mine around town, go to mineworld.
-You get four plots total, nothing can be done to change this. This includes both shop and home plots.
House plots cost 200, shops cost 400.
-No floating trees near town
-If you are offline more than two weeks your plots will be reset and taken from you to be resold.
-No 1x1 towers or holes around town.
-There is a $10 per day tax on all plots you have, so if you have four plots you have to pay $40 per day. If your plot is taken because you cannot pay (Which is done automatically, none of the TAs do it) and you ask a TA they will give your plot back to you for free.
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Dragon approves of this message. ;) (And good screenies by the way, I got to check on the town without getting on...sorta. XD )
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Long live the King, long live the Dragon! ;)
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Tax, Really? There is also a lot of restrictions.
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It's not even a large tax. Personally I think that if you can't get $10 per day for just one plot you have a problem. Considering I give new residents $1000 when they join, that should certainly last them several days. There's also the farms in town, residents can easily get money via using these.
The restrictions also aren't that hard to follow, the most restricting thing I believe is the 10-block height limit. And as I've said, we have town farms. Can easily get at least 2k from the wheat we have there in just one gathering.
Nothing wrong with no 1x1 towers or 1x1 holes. No one likes falling into a hole that's only one block, and 1-block towers are also annoying.
Mining around town? Makes it incredibly hard to expand the town, plus it destroys the landscape and makes it hard for residents to do things in the nearby wilderness if they fall into holes/etc. This IS what we have the mining world for, and I frequently set home in the mining world and will TPA someone there to get them to a safe place to mine if they ask.
Floating trees? Also annoying. Take up space and makes it annoying, especially if you're going around trying to get wood and someone's left a floating tree when they could have gotten the wood and replaced it for an entire new tree. We also, of course, have a tree farm in town. Therefore there's really no need to go out and tear down trees in the surrounding areas. We have every type of tree, including an open chest for residents containing saplings.
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The tax prevents the city from being deleted like it hapens all the time to other smaller cities, because it can actually financially break even by itself. Other cities migh have some of the longest-playing and richest players on the server to finance themselfes with a few peoples donations, but DragonFire is meant to carry itself, with donations being used to set up new players with new plots and other things they might need. There are also certain safetymechanisms that prevent you from losing your stuff when you run out of money (unless you don`t show up for several weeks, which is a common rule among many towns on the server).
And yes, there are regulations (without we could as well all build in the wilderness). If I`m not mistaken your city has some regulations as well and there are/were always regulations in KochiraKoso and other cities, too.
Most of the regulations simply have the use to prevent the surroundings of the city from looking like the moon after 2 weeks of strip mining and also to prevent the classic floating tree`s around.
There are of course also certain liberties and services. The townfarms are built to hold enough of every available cattle (including wolfes and cats) and the towns wheat-, melon-, pumpkin- and Cactifarms are big enouh that no resident has to "use" own plotspace for building an own farm. And speaking of plotspace, you`re allowed to own up to 4 plots from the beginning (the server doesn`t allow more than four per person).
I might also add that we actually postponed this "advertisment" after the fall of Oakhaven because we didn`t want to take any "survivors" away from Danniel and BlackThorn (we also offered supplies for the immediate rebuilding to be delievered on request, but these apparently weren`t needed). We even sent some "survivors" your way, but by now most of the returning former Oakhaven residents should have settled in and we are now again trying to recruit new residents among the servers newcommers.
We have no interest in any animosities or enticements and want to actually cooperate with the other towns so that all towns can prosper equally instead of joining some silly "we must be bigger then the others" competition.
Ah yes and one final piece of information, the Mayor and his two lovely TA-Ladys are all 18+ and have known each other for years, so the "towns goverment" actually has a deep level of mutual trust and stability.
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I will also mention that I myself keep the town running a lot of the time by donating at least 20k every few days into the town bank, as every plot the town claims costs 1k. And we are expanding quite a lot. Therefore I make sure that the town itself is maintained by keeping the bank going, so there's hardly any chance of the town suddenly going under. Also because I myself deposit into the town so frequently the residents of the town can freely enjoy themselves without having to worry about depositing their own money to keep the town afloat. The small $10 per plot tax is hardly damaging to anyone considering all the advantages the town has.
And yes, Alba is correct. I even give 1k to each new members so that if they wanted to they can take four plots. Currently I'm having to go dig out new plots because this has enabled the newer members to each take up as many plots as they wanted up to four. And a lot of them do.
As Alba said again, I did not want to come across as though some kind of leech trying to take away those that were displaced during Oakhaven's tragic fall. (Of which I am highly disgusted to have happened and am immensely proud that those who were in it have risen despite the challenge and are thriving again.)
All I care to do on the server is take care of my town, and more importantly the residents in it. This of course involves getting new members and making sure they're all set up, which I do as soon as they enter town. I enjoy the fact that there are "better and bigger" towns out there, as it gives the server a huge diversity and gives me a goal to drive to. I'd love to one day make DragonFire as good as some of the other towns, and I'm striving towards that.
The regulations are in a way common sense type of things, as it's only proper manners to not dig 1 hole down to bedrock, or leave floating trees, or strip-mine near a town. They're only actual rules so that no one resident can claim that it wasn't a rule and thereby slip out of reprisal. That is all they're there for, and we've to date never had a complaint or anyone going against these rules. Everyone so far has been kind and enjoyed all the town has to offer, and the people in it.
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(Of which I am highly disgusted to have happened and am immensely proud that those who were in it have risen despite the challenge and are thriving again.)
<3 :3
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-If you are offline more than two weeks your plots will be reset and taken from you to be resold.
uuhm thats kinda griefing
sometimes people are busy and cant come online for several weeks, and then you just take away all their stuff?
kinda harsh dont you think?
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-If you are offline more than two weeks your plots will be reset and taken from you to be resold.
uuhm thats kinda griefing
sometimes people are busy and cant come online for several weeks, and then you just take away all their stuff?
kinda harsh dont you think?
I agree with Linda. Technically, it is griefing because you are modifying their property that they have payed for without their permission. What happens when they go on holiday? What happens if there is family problems?
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There are of course exceptions.
We're not cruel people, if we're notified that you're going to be busy we of course understand and would not let a plot be taken. I myself get busy quite a lot (Not so much that I'd be gone for two weeks without notice, though) and I understand how others who are busy with jobs, school, etc can get distracted and stay off Minecraft so they can get work done.
However I don't believe that's an excuse to not even send a single PM on the forum to notify Tidal or I that they'll be busy.
Either way, if a person comes back on after two weeks and finds that their plots have been taken we will give them another plot. A mod will have their chest broken open, and all items in the chest are stored in locked chests at spawn for when the person returns, so that none of their stuff is taken or sold off. Any important things that I find on the property I will personally take down and place in the chests as well so that no one else takes them and resells them.
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What happens if there computer suddenly stops working and have to get it sent away. That happened to me and didn't get my computer back until 4 weeks later? or of their internet stop working and there internet provider says it will be back on soon, but never is on :P
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There will be exceptions, but this rule was made after most of the town up and left without saying anything and never came back.
The two week rule has some problems yes, and there are those who run out of money during that time. It'll be tweaked but if you lose your plot you're not always getting it back free and if it takes to long we'll remove it.
They still should somehow manage to tell us there's a situation. In the end this rule is up to Dragon and I'm the only one who can get in contact with him regularly.
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Well I personally would find some way to get on another computer (What are friends for if not for allowing you to use their computers? Or libraries? I know the libraries near me allow you to use computers for searching things. And using MC in the browser/getting on Noobscraft quickly to send a PM isn't that hard to do.) to inform people.
However if a person isn't able to tell us, like I said. We'll give them a plot as well as items to replace what was taken on their plot. Their items will also be in a locked chest that I personally locked so no random members will be able to get at them. I intend on creating a locked-chest room for different members below spawn for storage of such things.
I also intend on taking down plots myself if I can (If the plot is not intensely huge. One member created a huge hotel-tree that went up to the clouds it seemed like. However they were banned, so it was not much of a problem.) to further store all the building material I can in their locked chest.
I will not allow anyone to touch these chests until the person comes back on, if they ever do.
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After careful consideration Tidal and I have decided to do away with the 10-block limit. Dark78660 was the one to implement this rule, and we believe that it is far too restricting. Therefore all residents can build as high or as low as they want.
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and you really know what was taken from you after being away for 2 weeks?
and do know that its seen as griefing. aka a permanent ban.
maybe you should disguss this first with an admin before deciding and griefing peoples places.
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http://puu.sh/oWyt (http://puu.sh/oWyt)
http://puu.sh/oWyF (http://puu.sh/oWyF)
http://puu.sh/oWyS (http://puu.sh/oWyS)
As you can see, EmperorMyrf agrees with me that this is not griefing.
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I'm sure Flintwood follows a similar system to this, not very practical and doesn't give your town a good reputation if you take down someones house just for being inactive?:/
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But as I've said. We don't take them down unless you've been gone two weeks, and only if you don't give notice that you're going to be gone.
We've only done this once or twice, and only to two people we knew were pretty much not coming back to the server. They'd found other servers and weren't going to bother with this one.
Tidal and I are pretty understanding. If we know the person and they've been somewhat active in the town we give them time. And even if we don't know them, we prefer to give the benefit of the doubt and wait to see if they'll come back. I intend on doing monthly checks on plots and players to see when a person was last active, so the two-week rule for me is really just a formality.
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and you really know what was taken from you after being away for 2 weeks?
and do know that its seen as griefing. aka a permanent ban.
maybe you should disguss this first with an admin before deciding and griefing peoples places.
I dont think thats griefing at all. We once on Entrolla (in previous versions) had a similar rule. It not only keeps plots open but motivates residents to get on. A town is only good if its residents are active.
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-If you are offline more than two weeks your plots will be reset and taken from you to be resold.
uuhm thats kinda griefing
sometimes people are busy and cant come online for several weeks, and then you just take away all their stuff?
kinda harsh dont you think?
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and do know that its seen as griefing. aka a permanent ban.
maybe you should disguss this first with an admin before deciding and griefing peoples places.
I would be a little carefull with accusations that other cities are griefers.
It is exactly the same rule as Flintwood`s rule # 6 and Netherfrost`s "plotrule" # 3 is the same with 3 weeks.
To label several towns (all that have this rule) as griefers is actually a quite hard accusation and I would love to hear an admin or moderator state whether this is indeed deemed as griefing or if the rule fits the server guidelines and is part of a towns process to ensure an active community.
You might also want to talk to your own nations mayors, Lindatjuh. The other cities with this rule are in the nation you are ruling, so if you really see it as griefing you might want to change that in your own cities.
What we are doing is that even after reseting a plot we take every chest in the house and put it on hold for several weeks (you can see an actual case at our townspawn) so the owners really have several weeks to either claim their plot or later at least their plot back. How many other towns go that far?
And I completly agree with Tyja, it keeps people motivated. Think of some of the "old towns" were parts of the city are really nice to view but nobody lives there anymore.
And only because there is this rule it doesn`t mean it is always enforced. In many cases (fully built houses of active resident that suddenly drop dead) this rule will not be enforced by the TAs. But in cases where the new resident joined the town, started building a house and didn`t come back after his first 2 visits and leaves behind only a half finished house for several weeks, yes that plot might be cleared (and that would happen in many other towns to, even those we don`t officialy post such a rule.
If you look at our plotprices you will see that they are kinda cheap (which compensates the taxes for over a month compared with other new cities that have 2x the plotprice). Therefore we have a lot of people joining the town that are on the server for the first time (because they can afford joning us and most of them like the support they get to get started). Most of them stay of course and are now part of the server, but there are allways some that find other servers that better fit their needs and that disapper without a trace. They are the ones this rule was designed for.
XandrewX, I`m always eager to learn about other towns systems (and if there are good rules recommending them to our mayor) so I`m curious. What does your town do if someone for eaxmple buys 2 plots in your town, starts building there and then leaves the server without notice, leaving behind an unfinished building for several weeks. If you are not clearing that plot (because you seemed to apparently consider that wrong) how do you fix that problem in your town?
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This sounds completely reasonable to me. Much more professional. Might get up early tomorrow and nip on before school to have a look.
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This sounds completely reasonable to me. Much more professional. Might get up early tomorrow and nip on before school to have a look.
Please do! And if myself or my TAs are not on at the time and you would like to join, just /mail either TidalMewMew, TwistedLover, or myself, and we'll make shure that we take care of you. :)
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Sorry about this but I don't appear to have been added. I have mailed both TA's and neither have responded. Am I doing something wrong or have the mails just not gone through?
Please respond as I deeply want to join this wonderful town.
Majorchoc
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TidalMewmew has responded to your questions in global chat and twice invited you to town (residents can see the invitation in the chat). You didn`t accept the invitation each time, so it timed out.
The Invitations are shown in the chat, you might have overseen them.
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TidalMewmew has responded to your questions in global chat and twice invited you to town (residents can see the invitation in the chat). You didn`t accept the invitation each time, so it timed out.
The Invitations are shown in the chat, you might have overseen them.
It is quite possible to overlook invites in the chat, it can be a bit noisy. :P
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Oh I am so sorry I had no idea! I must have sounded like a right B*****d. Honestly I am so sorry, I din't know how it worked. When I next ask I'll be sure where to look!
Thank you!
Majorchoc
P.S I have a friend called "drmjr" He's also been sending messages to you. Please don't get angry with him I'll try to explain to him as soon as possible.
Once again, thank you.
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As Dann said in the first reply to this post we do remove the plot to people in Flintwood after being unactive for 2 weeks i have never seen this as a grief cause if people are off for 2 weeks they have mostly quit the server also I often do send a message to the person it is about and hope for a respond if they don't respond i will remove the plot 1 week later if they got a reason to be off they should tell the mayor before they leave
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I have a friend called "drmjr" He's also been sending messages to you. Please don't get angry with him I'll try to explain to him as soon as possible.
He joined the town already. :)
[edit] And you did so too, welcome in the neighbourhood.
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I'm terribly sorry that I haven't been on! I've been working on a project from 9AM to nearly 12PM, and then I had classes from then until a few minutes ago.
I'm also waiting nervously by my phone for a call from a company that wants to job interview me for the summer, so I've been trying to get in contact with them since I got off classes.
I'm glad to see that you're already in the town however! I hope that you've been set up with a plot and some money to start you off? If not I can zip on and start working on clearing out some plots for you!
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Thanks but I'm all set up. :)
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DragonFire is coming along wonderfully, keep up the good job Town Assistants, Mayor and Residents. I will keep popping around the check up on your progress within the town. ;)
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I'm glad to hear you like it Danniel! I popped in at Blackthorn a day-two ago and I have to say I thought it looked wonderful. I loved the water slides first off, and then the golden "1" there was really nice. I like how it was set-up so people could view it from like a walkway around it. Very brilliant planning there. ^^
I intended to explore more around it, but I'd had to pop back in at DragonFire to help with some things.
I do like some of the houses I saw. the one I remember the most was something that looked like... something like a space-pod thing. That was really cool. :3
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Hehe, why thank you Twisted! :) There are some great builds in my houses, especially the Blackthorn Eye (just like the London Eye (the big Ferris wheel)), made by Natalee27. Feel free to pop back whenever you like! ;)
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How do i find the town ? I'd like a look
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Type /town spawn DragonFire
That takes you to their town spawn, the town has a couple of dragon heads around it, they're awesome. ;)
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Yes indeed. :) Though we need more art, imo, especially around some of the newer districts. XD And spawn needs help...and...there's a long to-do list. XDD
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Also, Myrf fixed my house before everything came down, but the house is still registered as a shop. The guy that owned it prior didn't have anything of real value in there. lots of music discs. Lots of enderstones. But I was in the midst of building the new home when the server came down. Le-sad. :<
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Still registered as a shop you say? That can be fixed if you'd like. :)
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I would, I know shops cost more than homes tax-wise. It's not super important, but it's alright.
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Ok, I'll be certain to take care of it when I get on later, unless Twist or Tidal beat me to it. XD
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Actually I'd fixed the shop tax so that it only costs $10 per day just like regular plots do. It was to avoid confusion since I had no idea how much they cost prior to that. If it ever gets changed again I'll make an announcement about it of course.
By the way, does anyone know how to see all the residents currently in your town? I've been looking for that command so I can "/mail send" residents individually announcements since that's the quickest way I can think of to inform them, but I just can't see all the residents. Used to be able to with "/town" but now we have so many it cuts off with "and more..." on the residents section.
Soon we'll have some more things around the town like Dragon said, it's just an overall work in progress while we get more plots to fit people and then determine what we want to add to the town. :3
If any current residents in DragonFire have ideas (And those outside of it, if they want to offer any!) please feel free to step forward and give your opinion.
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Make a really long dragon with a roller coaster inside of it, hehe. :3
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Hehheh, longer than the one at spawn though, right? xD More of a mini-coaster that one is.
I'll see if I can find a place to put one, I really like that idea. PlusIhavesomanyrailstogetridof.
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Oooohh! Ooohhh!! Pick meeee!!!! I'm good at rollercoasters. :3 (and they're incredibly fun to make. ^.=.^ )
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Alright Dragon, if you're on right now I can pass over the rails to you! I have so many right now, it'll be nice to get rid of them. (I've scoured lots of mineshafts over the time I've been here, so I've collected up quite a lot...)
I'm not really good with creating rollercoasters and since you're good at it I'd love if you'd make it. ;3
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when someone is on i would love to join :) :sss: [diamond] [diamond] [diamond] [diamond]
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Shure thing Deadly! :) The next time we're on at the same time I'll be shure to add you, if you've not already been taken care of, that is. XD
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Hate to tell you Dragon but they've been in our town for a while now. xD
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next time someone is on please could join dragonfire please
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Hate to tell you Dragon but they've been in our town for a while now. xD
Ah...can't have been that long though, they just made that post yesterday, according to the time-stamp. xD *Derp* More like yesterday a month ago...I thought that post was familiar. xD
next time someone is on please could join dragonfire please
Certainly! :) Er...I see you've already been added by Twist...darn it Twist! Ninja'd me again! xDD
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Dragon tends to sleep a lot within his lair...
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I just talked with you on the server, may I join the town? I already have a residence that my friends gave me...
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Hello,
I have heard quite a bit about DragonFire and it sounds like quite a nice place to be and a very lively community. I was just wondering if I would be able to become a TA somehow if I joined? I know that you have no reason to let me or even trust me but please reply to this as I would really love to become a TA for DragonFire as it is a lovely town and it is awesome!
Thanks,
scam664 :)
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Hello scam664. :) I would be glad to let you into town, but, not to crush anyone's dreams or anything, but the chances of just anyone becoming a TA in DragonFire are something along the lines of 1:1,000,000. You have to be quite an incredible person, in my opinion, to become a TA, and I have to trust you a LOT. I use the same criteria for assigning TA positions as I would use for assigning mod/admin positions on my own Minecraft server, so the chances of any single person becoming TA are relatively slim. If your only goal in joining is to become TA (and this goes for anyone reading this/thinking about joining DF/already in town, not just you, so I'm not singling you out by any means), then I suggest finding another town, nothing personal, its just the way it is. On the other hand, if you don't mind the prospect of possibly not becoming TA and still want to join town, then you're more than welcome, and keep holding on to your ambition for TA (just not asking about it every day. XD ), and you never know, perhaps someday you will be, but no guarantees, of course, but it is always good to have dreams, even if they don't come true. :D