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Noobstown => Towns & Nations => Topic started by: Reigando on 3 Oct 2013, 21:31:13

Title: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: Reigando on 3 Oct 2013, 21:31:13
So, in V6 I intend to create a town named Gotham. I also intend to make a nation named Earth-two.

Basic ideals of this nation:
Freedom of speech. Within the bounds of the town's private chat group, no language or content restrictions. You can talk like an adult without fear of retribution. This is the biggest and most important ideal of the city. Even if you don't want to be a member of the city, you're welcome to join the chat group.

Tax-free property. No worrying about daily fees and potentially losing your claims because you stop playing minecraft for a week. Free plots as well.

Sensible mediation. I will work to resolve any internal issues people may have with each other in a fair manner. If you have an issue with another member about property locations or personality conflicts, I will do what I can to resolve the problem.

Help from Reigando. I offer free repairs and discounted sales to Gothamites. It's good to be in league with me.

Given the level of freedom I want people to have within this community, there's not much need for strict rules. There are many things I discourage, like idiocy in general, but I will not ban even that. Griefing and spamming are really the only things I can think of I specifically won't allow because they are disruptive and destructive.

I intend to host community events with prizes provided by myself and anyone who wants to donate. This would of course have to wait until after a bit of a player base is developed.

One such event I would like to do is "Iron Crafter", a take on iron chef where all participants must craft a certain type of structure and/or use a specific block as their primary ingredient.

I would like to have an exclusive community market where people can buy/sell at slightly discounted prices to one another. With the auction house, not sure how much people will care about using chest shops, but I still like them.


If you're interested in joining or have any questions or suggestions, feel free to post on this thread, private message me on here, or message in game.
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: Olah0001 on 3 Oct 2013, 22:03:12
maybe it depends but I might
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: sombrerodude on 4 Oct 2013, 14:49:57
Freedom of speech. With in the bounds of the town's private chat group, no language or content restrictions. You can talk like an adult without fear of retribution. This is the biggest and most important ideal of the city. Even if you don't want to be a member of the city, you're welcome to join the chat group.


Just a heads-up: the new chat system will disable your text from being sent to chat if there are swear words included in it. However, from what I've been told, the filter is a lot more sensible... So you will likely be able to chat about your skys****er without a problem :)
O the irony
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: HarryX11 on 4 Oct 2013, 16:37:59
Freedom of speech. With in the bounds of the town's private chat group, no language or content restrictions. You can talk like an adult without fear of retribution. This is the biggest and most important ideal of the city. Even if you don't want to be a member of the city, you're welcome to join the chat group.


Just a heads-up: the new chat system will disable your text from being sent to chat if there are swear words included in it. However, from what I've been told, the filter is a lot more sensible... So you will likely be able to chat about your skys****er without a problem :)

And other things like beef... Slim Jim.
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: Waterworth on 4 Oct 2013, 17:54:41
In response to your post;

I am having trouble understanding how you define 'mature players', if you are defining mature players as players that are adults I think you will need to seriously revise your post because you seem to be indirectly discriminating on the basis of a players age which is unacceptable. Furthermore I'm not sure how you would moderate the players joining your nation - If they are mature or not?

There has been several topics in the past about a mature player area in the past and they have been dismissed as unjust because they go against the server rules. Whether or not you create this environment our safety measures will still be put in place such as the filters that Adrian mentioned, so you will not be able to use any expletives in the chat. If I have got this wrong, and this chat is to speak about issues that may be controversial and may cause arguments in the global channels, I would encourage you to speak in a private chat, however you must understand that even though you aren't speaking in the global channel, if you break any rules your account will be possibly suspended, jail or even banned.

On a final point I would like to mention that we want to create a friendly, fun and more importantly safe environment for all players at Noobstown regardless of their age, gender and so on, this is why we have the safety measures such as the filters and Moderator/Prefects. If the above points that I have mentioned are wrong, I think you seriously need to add and give some more clarification on how you measure maturity and the topics that you may be speaking about in this town/nation.

Apart from this, I think it is a good idea to set up a small community to trade and set up events for.

Thanks
Waterworth
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The topic I mentioned earlier about a similar situation like this - A "Mature Gamer" Zone? (http://www.noobscraft.com/suggestions-ideas/a-'mature-gamer'-zone/msg38830/#msg38830)
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: gamergirlxo on 4 Oct 2013, 18:41:46
If you want an example of a "mature town"look at Bushido. We had "mature" playerd as part of the town while still keeping to the rules. I wouldn't advise finding any way to create a "mature" atmosphere that may break the general Noobscraft rules in any way. And as Waterworth said, not quite sure your definition of "mature."
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: UnlikelyPirate on 4 Oct 2013, 18:50:35
Mature people do not use expletives very often. This town idea sounds like "You have to be mature join, but you can be immature afterwards if you want to."
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: sombrerodude on 5 Oct 2013, 01:42:46
If you want an example of a "mature town"look at Bushido. We had "mature" playerd as part of the town while still keeping to the rules. I wouldn't advise finding any way to create a "mature" atmosphere that may break the general Noobscraft rules in any way. And as Waterworth said, not quite sure your definition of "mature."
Bushido is a mature town and their v5 town was beautiful if you want to do a town that's "mature" model it after them :)
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: Reigando on 5 Oct 2013, 08:03:38
My measure of maturity has nothing to do with age, but rather with content. If you shy away from basic topical discussions outside of minecraft, I would consider that immature and sheltered. That's what I mean to avoid with the label "mature".

So while I don't care about specific numbers of age, I would prefer not to have a 5 year old in my community who's parents don't want them to hear a discussion on say (ALERT, DON'T READ THE FOLLOWING WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT) that crazy lady who tried to drive her car into the White House.

I understand the chat filters will still be in place, I don't really care about that, I'm professionally a seaman, I already get to cuss like one enough in my real life.

I do however care about being able to talk in an environment where "Hey let's not talk about that" is not the end of a completely benign conversation about some public issue. More than a couple times I have been witness to discussions being squashed by moderators and members of the community. Non-offensive, perfectly acceptable topics mind you.
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: HarryX11 on 5 Oct 2013, 14:56:44
What is considered "OK" for some people may not be for others.
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: 86maxsmart on 5 Oct 2013, 18:37:17
Adrian,

I have to agree with Reigando on this one.  As to certain conversations being "squashed" by moderation, there certainly hasn't been equal treatment or consideration.  Although it was the exception, certain moderators often were rude to and harassed people/guests and "squashed" perfectly legitimate conversations, while at the same time bashing people's country of citizenship or disability.  As if anyone has a choice where they were born or what physical limitations they have.

If you want to make certain topics off limits, I suggest there be a defined list as part of the rules and not left up to moderation for determination in game.

Max
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: Reigando on 5 Oct 2013, 19:55:50
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Just take it to private chat.

Yeah, that's part of the point of this town...to establish a community with a private chat. That's why in my little spiel about it I also invite members of other towns to join the chat, even if they don't join the city
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: Waterworth on 5 Oct 2013, 21:22:04
Adrian,

I have to agree with Reigando on this one.  As to certain conversations being "squashed" by moderation, there certainly hasn't been equal treatment or consideration.  Although it was the exception, certain moderators often were rude to and harassed people/guests and "squashed" perfectly legitimate conversations, while at the same time bashing people's country of citizenship or disability.  As if anyone has a choice where they were born or what physical limitations they have.

If you want to make certain topics off limits, I suggest there be a defined list as part of the rules and not left up to moderation for determination in game.

Max

Hi Max,

Moderators will challenge any conversations that are controversial or inappropriate, for example conversations about religion, war etc will be stopped as everyone has their own opinions, which are different and can cause arguments, which can escalate to rule breaking. We try to stop these conversations to prevent a player from breaking the rules, we do understand and take into account that we have adults playing here at Noobstown, but we are a family oriented server and all chat channels are moderated as such, so we can maintain as I've mentioned before a friendly, fun and more importantly safe environment for all players.

In response to your comment regarding Moderators making rude comments and harassing players, I would encourage you, and any other players to report any behaviour like you mentioned, directly to me and I can deal with that, as that is a serious issue.

On a last point, there are so many different situations that topics could be mentioned, some could be offensive and some might not be, it would be impossible for me to list every scenario of an inappropriate topic and how it could be offensive to some players. Also, most topics are controversial because of the varying opinions in the community, and I don't want to make the rules so strict that people aren't allowed an opinion because that's just unfair.

Hope this helps

-Waterworth
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: 86maxsmart on 5 Oct 2013, 23:28:27
This does help, thanks for the clarification.  Good thing I'm not religious.

Max

Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: Darkwings on 6 Oct 2013, 00:30:25
Yeah, that's part of the point of this town...to establish a community with a private chat. That's why in my little spiel about it I also invite members of other towns to join the chat, even if they don't join the city

While I understand both yours and Max's point of view, there is a underlying problem there:

Moderator are responsible for the whole community, even for private (\msg) chat.

At the same time you're asking moderators to not do their job and for special rules that you're supposed to enforce with no entitlement.

You could simply use other methods of communication (voice chat for example) that don't rely on the server at all. Anyone going there is on their own.

As said, moderators can be reported as everyone else if needed.
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: Reigando on 6 Oct 2013, 01:23:45
A VoIP might not be a bad idea, but one I would look into after building more of a playerbase. Only a handful of people have expressed their interest so far.
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: Olah0001 on 9 Oct 2013, 22:34:22
how many are you looking for to start ?
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: Reigando on 12 Oct 2013, 13:05:38
I'll start alone if I gotta, but more the merrier.
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: SmithB0118 on 12 Oct 2013, 21:20:30
I'm not really understanding why it's a town for mature players only and how would you know who's mature and who isn't? Sorry but it seems a bit absurd.
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: Reigando on 17 Oct 2013, 10:06:48
It's for mature players only because I don't want to avoid basic topics of conversation within the town's community.

If people dub themselves mature enough to handle that environment, I will let them in, if they prove to not be mature enough after I actually see them in action, I will kick them out. Simple enough.
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: Reigando on 26 Jan 2014, 10:07:29
Now that launch is approaching, I just wanted to mention that I still plan to build up my funds and apply for and buy a town as soon as possible. So, for those who expressed interest if you're still interested that's great, I'll get the ball rolling on that quickly.
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: Reigando on 13 Feb 2014, 09:02:52
I have the 850k, I have one of my homes set on the start point for the city, and I have my application to become a mayor in.

As soon as I get permission, the town will go live.
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: Reigando on 13 Feb 2014, 20:49:29
Gotham is officially open for business.

Please read the initial posting on the goals of the town, then post here or message me in game for an invite if you are interested.
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: alex_abcd on 16 Feb 2014, 22:20:16
I want to join the town please. I qualify for all rules, though I may get a little crazy, sorry if I am.
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: DestructCube on 23 Feb 2014, 22:19:19
Hey im interested in joining. I'm new to the server though so it'd be super awesome if you guys could help me out.
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: Reigando on 28 Feb 2014, 16:33:53
Some minor updates to the mission statement, mainly that I decided to make plots completely free.
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: eboniics on 22 Mar 2014, 01:32:40
I would Like to join Gotham if there is any openings?!??! :) 8| o.O
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: Reigando on 23 Mar 2014, 20:42:13
Note: Those who do not log in for a few weeks without notifying me of their situation are in risk of losing their plots.

If the plots actually have something nice built on them, I probably won't give them up. But I'm sick of seeing people make lame cobble huts and then leave the server, so I will reclaim the land if you don't develop it.
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: avoirdupois107 on 17 Apr 2014, 00:37:53
Until the town spawn is reset by the mayor, I suggest town members tp to our friendly neighbor to the south, Pokeville, and leg it north and east to Gotham. It's only about a km.
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: gamergirlxo on 17 Apr 2014, 00:41:50
Town Spawn should be fixed soon since arrangements have been made with Reigando's absence.
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: avoirdupois107 on 28 Apr 2014, 03:30:05
Town Spawn is fixed!
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: avoirdupois107 on 13 May 2014, 00:33:08
I'd like to announce that Gotham is still open for business. I have been appointed mayor pro-tem due to the long absence of the original mayor, Reigando. I'd like to thank all of our builders and welcome all of our new members. Plots are still free and there is no rent, and we have many plots open. I have been touring the town and working to clean up vacant plots. If you have received a notice from me that your plot is derelict, please message me in some way (on this board or via in game chat or /mail) if you plan to develop your plot. I have given all town members 6 weeks to message me or develop derelict plots. I am looking for TA's for building, plot maintenance, and recruitment. We have a town tram, enchanting table, anvil, and many beacons.  Current plans are a batcave with piston doors and a batmobile sculpture. Please message me if you are interested.
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: avoirdupois107 on 3 Jun 2014, 07:09:17
Notice: downtown renewal project and New town rules:
First, I'd like to welcome Necaras as a new TA. I have notified derelict appearing plot owners in Gotham about a month ago. Next week, derelict plots will be claimed for the town and resold/reassigned.

Town build rules, as of 6.2.14:

1. At ground level and at least 2 blocks up, there must be a 1 block border between your build and the next plot on all sides as a freely passable alleyway/right of way. If builders obstruct the alleyway, a warning will be sent by /mail. If the alleyway is not cleared within 2 weeks, I reserve the right to assign a TA to tunnel through to make a right of way. As you have been warned, this will not constitute griefing. This applies only to new construction at this time, but if you have a structure that directly abuts your neighbor, please make an alley to allow citizens to move freely through town. This does not apply to a combination of plots owned by a single person, only between plots of differing owners

2. All builds in the city proper should be flattened to y=66. If your plot has blocks overhead, they need to be cleared or I will assign a builder to clear it and you will not receive the blocks/ores that are harvested.

3. Derelict plots. Any plots that are partially built/incomplete or empty are derelict after 2 weeks and a warning will be issued via /mail or PM. 1 month after warning is received, plots will revert to town ownership and will be resold/reassigned.

4. Absentee owners. Any plot owners who are absent from the server for more than 1 month will be warned by /mail or PM. After 2 months of absenteeism, any plots/property will revert to town ownership. Contact to mayor or TA will reset the clock.

5. Builds are allowed under the river/waterways, but the waterways must remain navigable in the original banks (builds must be below 2 blocks of the surface). Any existing docks/structures as of this writing are "grandfathered" in, this only applies to construction after 6.2.14

6. Built plots are no longer free, they will be assigned a price based on the build quality. Empty plots will still be free until town is fully populated.

7. Cash prizes for best builds in town are coming soon. Points will be awarded for redstone machinery, design detail,  structure size, and town theme. Nominations required, you may nominate yourself after the contest is announced.

8. Cash prizes for best shop in town are coming soon. Points will be awarded for shop design, layout, selection of wares, and customer service.  Nominations required, you may nominate yourself after the contest is announced.

I feel these rules are for the betterment of the city, but I will entertain mature discussion.
Feel free to offer suggestions for town improvements/structures.

Gotham has 2 tree farms, a crop farm with most crops (including netherwort), an armor/repair grinding area, an acrobatics training area, a town enchantment room, a public anvil, and the best tramway in Noobstown.
Title: Re: Gotham. For mature players only.
Post by: gamergirlxo on 3 Jun 2014, 08:01:45
Notice: downtown renewal project and New town rules:
First, I'd like to welcome Necaras as a new TA. I have notified derelict appearing plot owners in Gotham about a month ago. Next week, derelict plots will be claimed for the town and resold/reassigned.

Town build rules, as of 6.2.14:

1. At ground level and at least 2 blocks up, there must be a 1 block border between your build and the next plot on all sides as a freely passable alleyway/right of way. If builders obstruct the alleyway, a warning will be sent by /mail. If the alleyway is not cleared within 2 weeks, I reserve the right to assign a TA to tunnel through to make a right of way. As you have been warned, this will not constitute griefing. This applies only to new construction at this time, but if you have a structure that directly abuts your neighbor, please make an alley to allow citizens to move freely through town. This does not apply to a combination of plots owned by a single person, only between plots of differing owners

2. All builds in the city proper should be flattened to y=66. If your plot has blocks overhead, they need to be cleared or I will assign a builder to clear it and you will not receive the blocks/ores that are harvested.

3. Derelict plots. Any plots that are partially built/incomplete or empty are derelict after 2 weeks and a warning will be issued via /mail or PM. 1 month after warning is received, plots will revert to town ownership and will be resold/reassigned.

4. Absentee owners. Any plot owners who are absent from the server for more than 1 month will be warned by /mail or PM. After 2 months of absenteeism, any plots/property will revert to town ownership. Contact to mayor or TA will reset the clock.

5. Builds are allowed under the river/waterways, but the waterways must remain navigable in the original banks (builds must be below 2 blocks of the surface). Any existing docks/structures as of this writing are "grandfathered" in, this only applies to construction after 6.2.14

6. Built plots are no longer free, they will be assigned a price based on the build quality. Empty plots will still be free until town is fully populated.

7. Cash prizes for best builds in town are coming soon. Points will be awarded for redstone machinery, design detail,  structure size, and town theme. Nominations required, you may nominate yourself after the contest is announced.

8. Cash prizes for best shop in town are coming soon. Points will be awarded for shop design, layout, selection of wares, and customer service.  Nominations required, you may nominate yourself after the contest is announced.

I feel these rules are for the betterment of the city, but I will entertain mature discussion.
Feel free to offer suggestions for town improvements/structures.

Gotham has 2 tree farms, a crop farm with most crops (including netherwort), an armor/repair grinding area, an acrobatics training area, a town enchantment room, a public anvil, and the best tramway in Noobstown.

avoir, you're doing a great job! keep it up!