The rules on this server are unfair and need refining.  Lets say i went and griefed a house, ok that would be a two day ban.  But saying ONE ip in the chat bans you FOREVER.  The ban for hacking and cheating is the same for saying ONE thing.  If Mods, not just one, but multiple, agree that the ban is unfair, you should be unbanned.  Refine the rules, this is unfair.  If you break a rule accidentally or with out knowing you deserve a warning.  The rules are too hard to find and they are outdated.  Also you can't use the forum rules for something that happened in the GAME.  The advertising ban is unfair and people agree with me.

I see both sides of the equation here.  A warning would be nice, but following the first rule of reading the rules should also be taken into account.  If you start bending the rules, the entire structure will break and fall to corruption and favoritism.  The sever wouldn't be as stable as it is without those rules being strictly enforced with a no tolerance attitude.  As for your particular case, I read over the ban appeal and again, I see your side of the story, but not being present, seeing the exchange for myself, and not being a Moderator, I can really have no judgement on the issue at hand.   Try to understand, these rules are in place to improve the quality of the entire server's game experience.  If you do not read the rules, and you break one, then the punishment you receive is just, as the rule is already there for you to access and know.

That being said, whether said rules are fair or 'right' isn't something up for debate.  It's their server, their rules.  If you do not agree to such rules, you have the right to find another server to move along to.  If they choose not to explain why they have said rule, it is again, their right to do so, and you are not obligated to have any further dealings with them.

I agree that there should be a more clear explanation of where to find the rules.  Mayhap a change in the /rules that gives the expanded details of each rule, or at least it directs you to the forum board to review the full list.  It took me a bit to get the hang of the server, and find the full rules detailed and layed out, but I also took an active role in searching to make sure I didn't oppose the guidelines of the Admins and their server.

Our suggestions can be read, and taken into consideration, but ultimately it is the owner of the server's decision on how to run the world. 

This is a real shame, it really is. Huskers is great guy man, he was just a nut case that day and said an ip address                                               , he really never meant to. But there's only one problem with this husk, it does state in the rules that you are not allowed to give out any ip address's witch results in a permanent ban.

What was it man? Did you not read that rule in-particular or was it that you forgot about it? 

I also wish these sorts of things could be looked at more in-depth.  It was obvious that my intent was not to advertise for this server.  Someone asked a question and I simply replied, unaware that saying one thing would get me banned.  I understand the advertising rule if someone comes on and spams the chat for a server, but I said it once.  And in no way did I benefit from "advertising".  If you can see the intent was not advertising, then a temp ban or a warning is definitely appropriate.  Thank you all for responding, I am just still upset about all of the time I put in the server just to go to waste for a silly thing.

Looking over your ban appeal, I see where you brought that up, but it was countered so I'm not sure.  Maybe Waterworth could take another look at your ban and perhaps review what has happened between now and then?  I see where he said the ban would stand and the topic was locked, so there may not be anything you can do at all. 

Frequently with such rules, it's the spirit and intent of the rule that must be followed rather than trying to skirt it by sticking to what one believes to be the letter of the rule. The spirit of the rule, no matter how it is worded, is fairly clear: do not give out addresses to other servers.

Your argument is based entirely on the wording, the letter of the rule. That's essentially taking the position that you are right, the server and it's policies are wrong, and everyone else needs to change to suit you. I don't know of very many situations where that ever actually works. If the wording made you misunderstand, that's one thing. You apologize, point out why you misunderstood politely, and move on regardless of the decision. That isn't what I've personally see you doing however. Sometimes you get the same attitude directed back at you you exhibit ourwardly. And that might be what you are seeing in this case.

The rules are very clear to understand, but I can expand on all of the rules if it makes it easier to understand.

Advertising is always a permanent ban, and it will always be a permanent ban. We don't want to lose our members to other servers.

In the Forum Rules it states;

You are also not allowed to use our services for commercial gain.

You are receiving commercial gain if you are taking players from our server to play on someone else's.

Air, even sending it in a PM will get you banned. Sending on on the server at all is breaking the rules. Had an idiot friend that tried to pm me his server ip after I warned him, and he was gone the minute he sent it, lol

If you're going to send something like that, best to just keep it to email, fb, or skype messaging to avoid any issues.

Congratulations James on reaching your 100th post! 

 

Air, even sending it in a PM will get you banned. Sending on on the server at all is breaking the rules. Had an idiot friend that tried to pm me his server ip after I warned him, and he was gone the minute he sent it, lol

If you're going to send something like that, best to just keep it to email, fb, or skype messaging to avoid any issues.

Thanks Omega for clarifying.