Elections!  (Read 10714 times)

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danniel1998

Re: Elections!
« Reply #25 on: 24 Feb 2012, 15:23:09 »
Nop.. never mind that's REALLY annoying.. Discussing masterr's idea of making the vote in-game would be fine with me as everyone can vote (not 100, I don't get where you got this idea from?) and the elections can carry on for, say a week? So then everyone has a perfectly long chance of getting their vote counted for.

Cerealman41

Re: Elections!
« Reply #26 on: 24 Feb 2012, 16:05:00 »
Yes! Ok I was thinking the vote being in an hour long or something so it could only hold 100 people due to the limit of how many can play at the same time. Anyway the voting still will be unfair! It would be a popularity contest then. Most people would vote for their friend or the one they know of the most when they might not be a good op/mod.

e.g. Bc and I have been chosen for the election. Bc is more popular then me so he gets more votes because of the popularity but might be a terrible op/mod. I am less popular and get less votes so I lose the election even though I would be a better op/mod then him.

danniel1998

Re: Elections!
« Reply #27 on: 24 Feb 2012, 16:15:51 »
In your case then if masterr is a bad Moderator then he get's de-opped then that Moderator position goes to the next candidate with the most votes.

Cerealman41

Re: Elections!
« Reply #28 on: 24 Feb 2012, 17:48:04 »
And the voting was a waste of time.
Anyway dont you like it when they say who it is then knowing it's going to be one of 2 people.
Also then the admins will have to set up a voting place and waste there time on it.
Finally how do u vote. Voting is meant to be private so u dont yell and if we did have to the admins wouldnt be able to keep count.

danniel1998

Re: Elections!
« Reply #29 on: 24 Feb 2012, 17:51:44 »
I don't even know why I'm trying to explain Masterrbc's ideas xD I guess we'll just have to wait 'til he gets back from wherever he is.

Cerealman41

Re: Elections!
« Reply #30 on: 24 Feb 2012, 17:53:25 »
This idea turned into an argument

danniel1998

Re: Elections!
« Reply #31 on: 24 Feb 2012, 17:57:23 »
Not really.. just a heated discussion.

Cerealman41

Re: Elections!
« Reply #32 on: 24 Feb 2012, 18:01:12 »
That's what I meant.
Atleast everyone else on the forums can read this very interesting topic and see if they like it or not.

clash99

Re: Elections!
« Reply #33 on: 24 Feb 2012, 18:08:49 »
This is gonna end in a popularity contest that is totally dictated by either 1. ppl making fake acounts to try to win or 2. On vet, vip or reguler player trying to give away free stuff in order to becom a mod + i'm not sure what these ppl know of running to become a mod some may have some eperience but i know from experience its grueling work and everyone's a critic D:

danniel1998

Re: Elections!
« Reply #34 on: 24 Feb 2012, 18:14:05 »
It's not going to end up in a popularity contest unless people are stupid enough to vote for the person they like the most, they should take this seriously and vote for the person they think is best fit for the job, which may or may not be their closer friend. In response to your '1.': That is really dumb and stupid as masterrbc has already said that the voting will not be held on the forums. In response to your '2.': People giving away free stuff isn't what some people would do just to become a Moderator, that is extremely low and a form of bribery. I personally wouldn't do that.

Jigglybones

Re: Elections!
« Reply #35 on: 24 Feb 2012, 18:14:58 »
Personally, I don't support this. As said above, it would be just the most pupular person who would be voted on most (At least in some cases). It might end up destructively. I would rather leave decisions like this to the Staff.

Cerealman41

Re: Elections!
« Reply #36 on: 24 Feb 2012, 18:24:17 »
Tyber and clash have the right idea!

Also how can you vote?

danniel1998

Re: Elections!
« Reply #37 on: 24 Feb 2012, 18:38:26 »
Maybe having a popular person as a Moderator is a great thing? You wouldn't want someone you hate to be a Moderator. What's the point in having a bad Moderator that nobody supports?

Karl1206

Re: Elections!
« Reply #38 on: 24 Feb 2012, 18:59:25 »
Yes! Ok I was thinking the vote being in an hour long or something so it could only hold 100 people due to the limit of how many can play at the same time. Anyway the voting still will be unfair! It would be a popularity contest then. Most people would vote for their friend or the one they know of the most when they might not be a good op/mod.

e.g. Bc and I have been chosen for the election. Bc is more popular then me so he gets more votes because of the popularity but might be a terrible op/mod. I am less popular and get less votes so I lose the election even though I would be a better op/mod then him.

Cerealman41 your not seeing the side to it. I don't know if you have applied to be a mod/op before but I did it and INEED really like my application so what he did was gave me an interview per say and said some different scenarios and I answered them with what I would do. That's how they know if you are going to be decent enough and not a brainless idiot :) its exactly the same way as how someone becomes a mod anyway. Instead of the Admins/Mods making the final decision they just pick too players they really like and have interviewed and has the potential to be really good, then the community decides. It wouldn't necessarily go down on popularity :S

Karl1206

Re: Elections!
« Reply #39 on: 24 Feb 2012, 19:04:04 »
Maybe having a popular person as a Moderator is a great thing? You wouldn't want someone you hate to be a Moderator. What's the point in having a bad Moderator that nobody supports?

Yes it is a good thing and no one will be paying £18 to make a fake account and it is done on a voting system and just put on the server as one of the hint/tip things "Vote now for who you think would be a good Mod" or something along them lines ... This is becoming hard to explain over messages I would need to be with you to explain this in more detail verbally!

danniel1998

Re: Elections!
« Reply #40 on: 24 Feb 2012, 19:14:38 »
Skype perhaps? ;)

Karl1206

Re: Elections!
« Reply #41 on: 24 Feb 2012, 19:29:20 »
Skype perhaps? ;)

Well ye I suppose lol but I can't be bothered to go on it now lol, I'm bushwhacked from work :P

masterrbc

Re: Elections!
« Reply #42 on: 24 Feb 2012, 21:03:52 »
Yes! Ok I was thinking the vote being in an hour long or something so it could only hold 100 people due to the limit of how many can play at the same time. Anyway the voting still will be unfair! It would be a popularity contest then. Most people would vote for their friend or the one they know of the most when they might not be a good op/mod.

e.g. Bc and I have been chosen for the election. Bc is more popular then me so he gets more votes because of the popularity but might be a terrible op/mod. I am less popular and get less votes so I lose the election even though I would be a better op/mod then him.

Let me fix you on your example, if said scenario did happen, it would be likely that way because i help alot of people on the server. But i do see where you are comming from. If me and Linda were made mods, it'd be more likely she would have more people for her BUT, the fact that alot of the new players like the idea of me, i dunno, i feel like i am ranting on..... LOL!

And on friends server, They do voting in-game. all it is, is that you get a sign, Put the persons name on the wall and you leave as soon as that is done. They also leave the very final decision up to the head-mod. But we get to see who the comunity would like in their own prefrence. Look to some of you guys, it may not make sence, but i also came up with this idea because i thought it would make our server even more popular....... nvm :P

As Cereal and others were saying, It can be a popularity contest only IF, YOU let it become one. Going to your lil speach about giving away free items, i do that on a regular basis to help out all the new people and people down on their luck.

danniel1998

Re: Elections!
« Reply #43 on: 24 Feb 2012, 21:17:47 »
Let me fix you on your example, if said scenario did happen, it would be likely that way because i help alot of people on the server.

Wow, I've never seen such a modest person in my whole entire life :O.


Cerealman41

Re: Elections!
« Reply #44 on: 24 Feb 2012, 22:51:08 »
Using signs as voting papers would be bad. Another person could break yours(unless it is protected by lwc. It would be easy to cheat by putting more then 1 sign down. To stop that you would need video surveillance meaning an op,admin or moderator standing in the voting booth for a whole week. They could also check who put down what sign . That has 2 downsides voting is private(and others can see to) so doing that wouldnt be nice and the admins would have to check 4000 different signs. Also where would u get the space for 4000 blocks.

Is the glass half empty or half full? It's half empty

Karl1206

Re: Elections!
« Reply #45 on: 24 Feb 2012, 23:53:35 »
Using signs as voting papers would be bad. Another person could break yours(unless it is protected by lwc. It would be easy to cheat by putting more then 1 sign down. To stop that you would need video surveillance meaning an op,admin or moderator standing in the voting booth for a whole week. They could also check who put down what sign . That has 2 downsides voting is private(and others can see to) so doing that wouldnt be nice and the admins would have to check 4000 different signs. Also where would u get the space for 4000 blocks.

Is the glass half empty or half full? It's half empty

Cerealman41 seriously mate ...
1. Signs are automatically locked when placed
2. Just by left clicking the sign, it now tells you who that sign belongs too (An Admin/Mod could check the these signs to make sure there are no double signs)
3. There will definitely not be 4000 members posting a sign on one board! It would mostly be the usual members who are on everyday lol!

masterrbc

Re: Elections!
« Reply #46 on: 24 Feb 2012, 23:55:38 »
Karl, i love the fact the you are making him realise what i've been trying to tell him and the fact is, is that i didn't really need to tell you anything about them being auto locked, btw karl +1 to ur respect. :P

Karl1206

Re: Elections!
« Reply #47 on: 25 Feb 2012, 00:14:13 »
Aha thanks, I realise both sides of the story and I reckon your idea could work, there may need to be some things that need to be changed or added ... whatever. But I do know the point you are trying to make :) and Thanks for the +1 :)

Cerealman41

Re: Elections!
« Reply #48 on: 25 Feb 2012, 00:37:12 »
Well this is a good idea but so many things could go wrong. I prefer to let the admins choose.

Jayjay36

Re: Elections!
« Reply #49 on: 25 Feb 2012, 01:23:57 »
Well this is a good idea but so many things could go wrong. I prefer to let the admins choose.
^ I totally agree with Cereal