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KingTaco130

Anti-Sniping on auction
« on: 31 Dec 2014, 18:58:56 »
Hey all and i am here to suggest to the noobscraft world. My suggestion is an anti-sniping on the auction. Its happen to everyone who wanted something they wanted so desperately. You wait and wait until the final seconds and then bam someone who camped the auction has taken it with seconds to spare. Its wrong and encourages camping on the auction. So this is my suggestion and i hope i gets implanted into the server.

As always guys i hope you think the same way and god bless and have a great new year
-Taco
 
« Last Edit: 31 Dec 2014, 20:40:40 by KingTaco130 »

Xavier1964

Re: Anti-Sniping on auction
« Reply #1 on: 31 Dec 2014, 19:51:59 »
agree completely. it dos encourage auction camping, and, in my point of view, encourages trolling auctions. someone sees something they want, then the sniper snipes it and tries to take advantage of the person by selling the  item they sniped from the person to that person for twice the bid in order to make quick money.

I probably worded that very confusing, but hopefully no confusing enough that the meaning isn't completely lost.

farhaaad

Re: Anti-Sniping on auction
« Reply #2 on: 31 Dec 2014, 21:26:18 »
If you wanted it so bad why don't you wait and bid at the last second? There is nothing wrong with bidding at the last second to make sure you get an item, and get it for the cheapest possible.

King0fgames_

Re: Anti-Sniping on auction
« Reply #3 on: 31 Dec 2014, 22:01:25 »
How are we supposed to get an item on the auction at the last second if someone bids more than you have on it before you can?

itisnotyou

Re: Anti-Sniping on auction
« Reply #4 on: 31 Dec 2014, 22:17:31 »
No use bidding, because the rich will just snipe it last second. Welcome to ebay :)
eBay doesn't work like this. On eBay you set the maximum amount that you're willing to pay and then eBay does all the penny bidding work for you automatically.

Citebafla

Re: Anti-Sniping on auction
« Reply #5 on: 31 Dec 2014, 22:28:22 »
How are we supposed to get an item on the auction at the last second if someone bids more than you have on it before you can?

Isn't the whole purpose of an auction that the ones that are willing to pay the most for an item get it, regardless of who "wants" it most? If he bids more than you have on it before you can, he would've also bid more than you have after you can.

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Anyway, simple anti-sniping rule. Force people to set a buyout price. Do you really want an item that badly? Pay the buy-out. If not? Well too bad if you don't get it, it won't be the last time you don't get something you want. And realize that anytime you do manage to buy something you also take it away from other people that won't get it.

Xavier1964

Re: Anti-Sniping on auction
« Reply #6 on: 31 Dec 2014, 22:38:53 »
Isn't the whole purpose of an auction that the ones that are willing to pay the most for an item get it, regardless of who "wants" it most? If he bids more than you have on it before you can, he would've also bid more than you have after you can.

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Anyway, simple anti-sniping rule. Force people to set a buyout price. Do you really want an item that badly? Pay the buy-out. If not? Well too bad if you don't get it, it won't be the last time you don't get something you want. And realize that anytime you do manage to buy something you also take it away from other people that won't get it.


good and bad idea.


Why this is a good idea: may discourage auction sniping IF the buyout is set at something semi reasonable(maybe have a set default buyout price for items set into the auction? *hint* idea *hint*)
might balance out the economy instead of all the servers money being focused onto like 1 or 2 people.


neutral point: if the admins set a good buyout it can probably either add more money to the economy or remove a large amount of money from the economy.

why I think this is a bad idea: people can set unreasonably high buyouts as a "get rich quick" scheme or to purposefully encourage trolling around the auction and continue sniping regardless.
the whole "the rich get everything and the poor get nothing" thing comes back or gets even worse than it is now. If a buyout price is force set it might just kill the auction altogether if people get greedy and want tons of bids on one item(for the attention? maybe?) instead of just a semi reasonable buyout price.


and that's all I got.

craftymatt13

Re: Anti-Sniping on auction
« Reply #7 on: 1 Jan 2015, 03:17:18 »
Yes, the sniping is annoying, but no one has suggested a way to actually control it.

Force a buy out price? Unfair to the seller. No buy-out price is a mixed bag with advantages to the seller and buyer. The whole point of the auction is for the seller to get the highest price while the buyer gets the lowest price possible. Sometimes the price is lower than the seller really expected (has happened to me). Sometimes the buyer gets more than expected (also has happened to me).

How can a reasonable price be set on something that is one of a kind (or one of a limited quantity). For example, how could a reasonable price be set on pet snowmen? You cannot craft it, so cost of materials cannot be used. It provides no benefit, such increased mining ability, to set value on. It is only worth what people bid in auction. Reasonable for rare pets could be said to be around one million (I think that's what an enderman went for.)

If you get out bid at the last second when you would have paid more, shame on you, you should have bid more, but as I said earlier, the goal of an auction is for the buyer to get a great deal so...

...to control the sniping, maybe something could be added into the auction so that a bid in the last minute adds 5 minutes to the time-this gives somebody a second chance to get what they want (and adds another 5 minutes) and gives the seller a better sale. The "fair value" everybody wants will be better reflected this way.

Of course, not matter what is done or not done, somebody will complain about the unfairness of it all.

Just my .01 noob.

Happy mining!

Citebafla

Re: Anti-Sniping on auction
« Reply #8 on: 1 Jan 2015, 03:57:33 »
...to control the sniping, maybe something could be added into the auction so that a bid in the last minute adds 5 minutes to the time-this gives somebody a second chance to get what they want (and adds another 5 minutes) and gives the seller a better sale. The "fair value" everybody wants will be better reflected this way.

This was also what crossed my mind.

Add in another checkbox when making an auction. If the box is checked, make it so that the auction gets extended if a bid occurs in the last few minutes before the auction ends.
If the box is unchecked, just let the auction end at the set date.

Making it an option to check/uncheck allows people that want to have a chance at a high offer (and against sniping) can check it, while allowing for people that WANT to have that item sold at X time because that's when they need the money, or when it's for useless items that people could otherwise troll by purposely extending the auction by bidding the minimum higher amount of noobz everytime to just leave it unchecked.

KingTaco130

Re: Anti-Sniping on auction
« Reply #9 on: 1 Jan 2015, 04:00:56 »
All im saying is if there is 10 seconds left and someone bids the timer goes to 1 minute and counts down. So this would kill sniping and make auctions less campy. So in a nut shell say i want to bid and there is 30 seconds left and i do bid the timer goes back to 1 minute and counts down so that gives the original bidder time to decide if he/she wants to bid.

itisnotyou

Re: Anti-Sniping on auction
« Reply #10 on: 1 Jan 2015, 09:45:29 »
An easy way to solve the problem would be the way eBay does it I suppose. Everyone sets the limit which they want to pay for an item and all bidding is done automatically. This would pretty much eliminate all sniping and at the same time prevent people from overpaying for items. For example, you set your limit for some item at 10 million nbz, the someone else sets their limit at 6 million and you get the item for 6.1 million. However I somehow feel that this would take allot of the fun out of the auction house.

ParanoidLepton

Re: Anti-Sniping on auction
« Reply #11 on: 1 Jan 2015, 12:39:20 »
Personally I think that the ebay thing would work better because not everyone can get on at the last minute

Nariaki

Re: Anti-Sniping on auction
« Reply #12 on: 1 Jan 2015, 14:16:19 »
The reset timer is a good idea, but make it 30 seconds instead of 1 minute, otherwise it'll take forever between two people.
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