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jtread4

Prison
« on: 22 Feb 2013, 21:04:39 »
So I was bored last night and started reading through ban appeals.  While a lot of the appeals I read were very hard to read due to poor grammar and spelling, but I came up with an idea.  How about for lower level offenses or first time offenders (for certain offenses of course) instead of a ban, they have a certain amount of required jail time.  There could either be a Noobstown wide jail or jails in individual towns or nations.  Find some way to have these people only spawn in jails and have no access to commands other than say a jail specific chat.  You could have someone (a moderator or admin) as a jail guard.  Each person in jail would have a set number of hours they have to log of jail time depending on the offense and how many strikes they have.  Hours would only be logged while actually on the server.  This part is probably a stretch, but maybe instead of just having them sit around in jail, you could have them mine (either for the individual town or country's profit), grow and harvest crops, or make basic tools to sell for x amount.  I don't know if this is actually a possibility or not, as I am very new to both MC and obviously multiplayer and servers.  Let me know what yall think!

suppusmac

Re: Prison
« Reply #1 on: 22 Feb 2013, 21:17:43 »
First, there are temporary bans that are just like jail, except you can't log on. Next, making them work for a nation isn't really possible, considering you can't force them to stay on a server. Even it if was, which towns get what resources? The only use I think a jail has is so people who did a minor offense can chat with other players at least while they're punished.

DiggyPerro

Re: Prison
« Reply #2 on: 22 Feb 2013, 23:40:26 »
A pool of lava would be better than a nice safe cozy prison for misdemeanors :)

Jayjay36

Re: Prison
« Reply #3 on: 23 Feb 2013, 00:23:01 »
Quote from: suppusmac on 22 Feb 2013, 21:17:43
First, there are temporary bans that are just like jail, except you can't log on. Next, making them work for a nation isn't really possible, considering you can't force them to stay on a server. Even it if was, which towns get what resources? The only use I think a jail has is so people who did a minor offense can chat with other players at least while they're punished.
Or lock them in local chat, prevent the permission of typing /ch g.

Jackmwoodall14

Re: Prison
« Reply #4 on: 23 Feb 2013, 01:08:04 »
If I was the owner, I would lock the person by there house in a jail, andlet them watch it get tnt'd and all items in chests collected for people to get , that would sure get the person angry as hell, and it maybe stop them from being naughty eh?:P

jtread4

Re: Prison
« Reply #5 on: 23 Feb 2013, 05:44:16 »
Quote from: suppusmac on 22 Feb 2013, 21:17:43
First, there are temporary bans that are just like jail, except you can't log on. Next, making them work for a nation isn't really possible, considering you can't force them to stay on a server. Even it if was, which towns get what resources? The only use I think a jail has is so people who did a minor offense can chat with other players at least while they're punished.

I was thinking more along the lines of creating a new chat sections just as you have in towns only jail specific so they can only chat with other jailbirds or the "guards."  Jail would be the only way for them to be "unbanned," so the people who truly want to stay in the server, but made a mistake or an "accidental offense" (so many seem to be accidental in the ban appeal section) would be forced to do "time" in order to be readmitted back to the rest of the world.  So basically instead of a temporary ban people are forced to put X amount of hours into jail to get back to having full privileges.  This would help find out the people who are truly dedicated to the server as opposed to those who don't really care if they get banned.  As far as the nations and resources go, I'm not really sure how to figure out who gets what so maybe put the fruits of their labor up for sale at discounted prices or something.  I haven't figured out all the specs as this was an idea that just popped into my head.

EttaDreamfeather

Re: Prison
« Reply #6 on: 23 Feb 2013, 06:38:03 »
A jail system overall wouldn't really change anything at all, and to me would only cause more trouble by having the admins have to create something or find something that would fit this, and then also having to fix out any bugs that occur between the chat plugin and the jail plugin for jail channels/etc.

We already give many chances to someone before a permanent ban is implemented. Especially with things like language and griefing. People are given a warning perhaps twice, temped twice, and then finally permanently banned if they continue to misbehave. So by the time a permanent ban has happened to someone who's been cursing/griefing it's hardly accidental anymore, since they've had warnings multiple times that what they're doing is wrong and they're simply choosing to ignore that fact.

jtread4

Re: Prison
« Reply #7 on: 23 Feb 2013, 16:02:05 »
Fair enough.  Like I said I was just throwing the idea out there.  Just a little warning, be prepared for me to come up with more crazy ideas in the future.

Duelcon

Re: Prison
« Reply #8 on: 23 Feb 2013, 20:01:04 »
Nothing wrong with ideas.  New things can never come to pass unless someone thinks of them first :D
Just be sure to keep them in good taste and follow the forums rules.

Dyavolia

Re: Prison
« Reply #9 on: 24 Feb 2013, 23:35:54 »
I like your idea  :)

Shifter980

Re: Prison
« Reply #10 on: 26 Feb 2013, 19:54:16 »
I like the Idea of the Prison there was one server that had for X-raying it was like a prsion you couldn't do anything all you could do was see your jail ticket and reply to it i believe its a plug-in that you can do and basiclly if you would get in trouble you just contact the Admin or Mod and they see if you get released or not. If You do get release the only way to get out was fall in lava which is briallinat becuase lets say he had 500 diamond on him! he would lose all of and start over, Plus they tell you to unistall the mod (x-ray).

But i just thought of something while there in jail they can work in a field to mine coal or something and it would bve sent to a Town or the Server so it would help the Economy side of the Server and how you would send that? a Admin or Mod would send it to a random town. I hardly doubt that they have a Plug-in or Mod for sending things if there is Great! :D So what do think of that idea about the Prison?

jtread4

Re: Prison
« Reply #11 on: 27 Feb 2013, 03:24:22 »
I don't think so much that jail would be for the x-rayers, seeing as it is such a serious offense and people rarely get unbanned for it.  I'm thinking more along the lines of giving people who have a temporary ban or maybe a last chance ticket for those on the fence of a permanent ban.

As far as the mining part, I thought I mentioned something similar, but I guess it wasn't as clear as I hoped.  I was thinking that they could mine such as shifter had said and either split the findings evenly through the towns, or maybe have a lottery that each town can enter to win all of the prison's assets each week or so.

sombrerodude

Re: Prison
« Reply #12 on: 27 Feb 2013, 03:50:42 »
Quote from: jtread4 on 27 Feb 2013, 03:24:22
I don't think so much that jail would be for the x-rayers, seeing as it is such a serious offense and people rarely get unbanned for it.  I'm thinking more along the lines of giving people who have a temporary ban or maybe a last chance ticket for those on the fence of a permanent ban.

As far as the mining part, I thought I mentioned something similar, but I guess it wasn't as clear as I hoped.  I was thinking that they could mine such as shifter had said and either split the findings evenly through the towns, or maybe have a lottery that each town can enter to win all of the prison's assets each week or so.
So pretty much slavery

jtread4

Re: Prison
« Reply #13 on: 27 Feb 2013, 04:14:44 »
Quote from: sombrerodude on 27 Feb 2013, 03:50:42
Quote from: jtread4 on 27 Feb 2013, 03:24:22
I don't think so much that jail would be for the x-rayers, seeing as it is such a serious offense and people rarely get unbanned for it.  I'm thinking more along the lines of giving people who have a temporary ban or maybe a last chance ticket for those on the fence of a permanent ban.

As far as the mining part, I thought I mentioned something similar, but I guess it wasn't as clear as I hoped.  I was thinking that they could mine such as shifter had said and either split the findings evenly through the towns, or maybe have a lottery that each town can enter to win all of the prison's assets each week or so.
So pretty much slavery

Haha exactly.  But only as a punishment of course!  I mean in a way, that's what used to (and probably still does) happen in USA jails.  Making license plates, weed wacking on the highways and such.  Actually in Baton Rouge, they bring prisoners in after LSU football games to clean up trash left by tailgaters on campus.  The first time I saw that my freshman year I freaked haha.  That's off topic, but just saying it happens IRL so why not here too?  :P

Shifter980

Re: Prison
« Reply #14 on: 27 Feb 2013, 19:42:51 »
-_-  Its a Jail its not consider slavery they pay the punishment by working. Its not fair that they get temporary banned do nothing for a bit and then probably come back and do the same thing again. [/b]Actually! It should be you have to mine or work to a certain point like get 64 coal and 100 oak wood then you're free [/b]  because they can can still do nothing. We can't force them to come on and work so i say there should work for your freedom.

Do you get what i'm saying?

Shifter980

Re: Prison
« Reply #15 on: 27 Feb 2013, 19:43:33 »
and it al depends on there jailticket of how much they need to work for.
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