Removing Auto Item Sorting!  (Read 988 times)

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Miner_man123456

Removing Auto Item Sorting!
« on: 14 Nov 2012, 17:44:07 »
So right now that the server updated to 1.4.4 there is 1 plugin that is not working like it should and that is the auto sorting, most off you probably know what I am talking about the plugin if you break 1 block and it is on the ground and break 1 more of the same kind they sort them self and so on.

Well to be honest I never really liked this plugin, I like it way better when stuff do not sort them self and you have to run around and grab it all, the same with xp when they sort it is not as much fun cause you can't hear all the ding sounds.

I set up a pool over if you want to keep it or not and I hope the Admin team consider it, thanks for reading :)

Jayjay36

Re: Removing Auto Item Sorting!
« Reply #1 on: 14 Nov 2012, 17:48:54 »
I agree, we're always talking about little things that aren't needed that might strain the server a little. This is a perfect example of something that could be disabled. Even though it's probably very basic, every little helps xD.

Miner_man123456

Re: Removing Auto Item Sorting!
« Reply #2 on: 14 Nov 2012, 19:21:04 »
I agree, we're always talking about little things that aren't needed that might strain the server a little. This is a perfect example of something that could be disabled. Even though it's probably very basic, every little helps xD.

Haha, so true :P

Orpheus_only

Re: Removing Auto Item Sorting!
« Reply #3 on: 14 Nov 2012, 19:44:19 »
I have actually used this item grouping thing many times to my advantage. When there are items that are beyond my reach, I toss one item of the same kind at my feet, and it will pull the other item towards me.

Also, when I dig clay, I really don't like ending up with 3 leftover clay items because I neglected to swim towards the one clay drop that's beyond reach. You really don't have time to swim around to get that last piece of clay when you're underwater.

Furthermore, there's a little glitch where you'll see an item in a falling animation loop (falls down to the ground, comes back to starting height, then falls again over and over). I've seen this happen with leaf drops (saplings/apples). They cannot be acquired unless I toss a similar item to group it with. If I've had chat screenshots, I've heard this happen to another player, whose gold block item kept falling and he can't pick it up. Unfortunately the plugin was momentarily turned off; my suggestion to toss another gold block was meaningless, and he ended up losing his gold block.

Foob

Re: Removing Auto Item Sorting!
« Reply #4 on: 14 Nov 2012, 19:58:19 »
The item sorting isn't really a feature we intended to put into place, it's actually part of a range of fixes in a custom build we use to avoid Minecraft lag. In this case the item grouping is there to reduce the amount of entity's scattered on the ground, the more items on the floor the more lag they are likely to cause in the area. Having the items grouped when dropped causes much less lag as all the items are floating in one spot. This explains why items may bob up and down when cutting wood and such it's trying to simply group them as the new entity is falling to avoid a huge mess on the floor. Once you have finished woodcutting all the entity's that were bobbing up and down should fall into your inventory in one big stack.

In the past before this was put into place some mischievous players would often buy 1000's upon 1000's of blocks and scatter them in one area to cause mass lag on the server, this obviously caused problems for everyone and was highly annoying to the rest of the people playing. Hopefully you understand why this is put into place and you'll probably see a lot of other servers using similar methods to avoid this type of lag, so there  isn't really an option to remove or keep the item stacking it's there for a specific reason and not as a feature.

Also!

Often you may see grouping off/on during stages of new Minecraft builds this is generally because our custom build isn't quite up to date with Bukkit.

*Poll locked, won't change the outcome on the server. I apologize if you dislike it.*
« Last Edit: 14 Nov 2012, 20:03:06 by Fatnoob »

Miner_man123456

Re: Removing Auto Item Sorting!
« Reply #5 on: 14 Nov 2012, 22:14:56 »
The item sorting isn't really a feature we intended to put into place, it's actually part of a range of fixes in a custom build we use to avoid Minecraft lag. In this case the item grouping is there to reduce the amount of entity's scattered on the ground, the more items on the floor the more lag they are likely to cause in the area. Having the items grouped when dropped causes much less lag as all the items are floating in one spot. This explains why items may bob up and down when cutting wood and such it's trying to simply group them as the new entity is falling to avoid a huge mess on the floor. Once you have finished woodcutting all the entity's that were bobbing up and down should fall into your inventory in one big stack.

In the past before this was put into place some mischievous players would often buy 1000's upon 1000's of blocks and scatter them in one area to cause mass lag on the server, this obviously caused problems for everyone and was highly annoying to the rest of the people playing. Hopefully you understand why this is put into place and you'll probably see a lot of other servers using similar methods to avoid this type of lag, so there  isn't really an option to remove or keep the item stacking it's there for a specific reason and not as a feature.

Also!

Often you may see grouping off/on during stages of new Minecraft builds this is generally because our custom build isn't quite up to date with Bukkit.

*Poll locked, won't change the outcome on the server. I apologize if you dislike it.*

Now that I see the way it effects the server I am for keeping it after all, thanks for the respond Joe :)

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