So basically in the wilderness world even if we buy 18 chunks we are still forced to create 16x16 builds?

I don't completely understand the question but if you buy 18 chunks you can decide to buy them in any location you want to as long as they can be bought (the system will force a 1 chunk border from others).

You could have a "chunk corridor" of lenght 18 or any other shape with an area equal to 18 chunks.
In that area you can build anything of any size, there is no 16x16 limit as long as you own connected chunks.


I have a question too :

Is there going to be a /sell command like before that transform items into noobz directly?

I heard there was an idea to let players sell "junk" items (like rotten flesh, sugar, etc) directly to a server shop.

Same thing with wood and food farms: are we required to sell everything to players or can we still sell directly to villagers/server shops?


I like the idea of quests, but denying any form of server shop (as it was in V5) makes life way harder for focused builders I guess (compared to miners/explorers that could do what they like while still gathering money).

PS: Good job on making the info threads sticky

Those look amazing.  What video card(s) are you using?  I'd like to try this on my computer, and see if I can still keep the framerate in the double digits.

Any dedicated video card will do, the only thing you need is enough video memory to load textures (if you use higher resolution ones).
Shaders are just instructions for the graphic chip, the cpu (what MC uses the most) is left untouched.

Simply put, anything made in the last 5 years should pull off 60fps.

So... after quite some time new functionalities aimed to generic players were added.

Placing buttons on horizontal surfaces is cool and useful but they also made life easier for anyone who wants to regulate the strength of a redstone signal.

Until now you had to use comparators coming out of containers, using different items and stacks to switch between a strength of 0 to 15 and, once set, the only way to know how much power you got was to add a monitor system of some sort (or manually counting the items and remembering the conversion table).

Now you can attach a comparator to an Item Frame and rotate the item inside the frame to regulate the signal.
They only offer 8 positions but they can be read just by looking directly at the item orientation.

Now, if they were to also add a way to monitor the strength of an incoming signal directly with 1 single block we could make MUCH more compact visual counters, reducing the footprint by at least a good half.

Of course they could more simply add a proper counter block but I guess they're not inclined to do so, for reasons I can't quite understand.

Instead they find reasonable to add features that no one with a sane mind would make available on a public server, ever (aka Command Blocks). Oh well 

As Duelcon said, such farms would make a dent into the economy and cause the material used to become pretty much worthless due to inflation (infinite amounts of iron being injected into the economy).

As far as I could understand (and if anyone from the staff can give more info, please do) having cattle/sheep farm could already be tricky compared to vanilla due to the dynamic spawn thingy.

If every single animal can despawn, there would be no easy way to mantain a farm.
Same goes for XP farms.

I've already asked about dark room spawners and animal farms a couple of times and all that was said can be summarized in "no permanent entities".
I hope I'm not the only one to consider a chore chasing cows at each login ._.


Removing the Iron Golem drop table seems the smart thing to do because Mojang already changed their drops requiring a player to kill them, but everyone knows how that can be achieved with as little as 1-2 clicks.
Same thing with Zombie Pigmen and Witches that were recently changed in the same way.

On the other hand, setting up a mob farm with Zombies, Skeletons and Creepers (drops varying from 1 iron ingot, 1 bone, 1 arrow, a broken bow, etc) isn't anywhere near gamebreaking territory and offers a half-decent alternative to the less mining oriented players while remaining inferior to MMOSkills farming.


Basically, my point of view is a complete yes/no switch:

If Iron Golem farms (or other types of farms) are prohibited and considered cheating, then make them impossible to make. Iron Golems coul be fun to have around, so just remove the drops.

If something is allowed instead, don't make it harder than it should be due to exploit prevention.
Making as much as 2 permanent sheeps/cows per town would make mantaining a farm less of a chore.
It will be the mayor's responsibility to keep them safe and feed them to increse the numbers.
Animal requires a bit to grow up so the system will be balancing itself (even over-balancing, considering it's a community-wide waiting line).

In the worst case scenario someone would be _willingly_ trying to overload the server by keeping tons of cows around without killing them for the drops so that particular case should be really easy to spot.

That way unless someone is really trying to exploit the system there would be as few limitations as possible.
(i.e.: building a village with villagers and doors without the constant fear of breaking the rules)

Apologies for the long post (and for what happened in that other recent thread).

Just a note: since this is really going too far, please avoid quoting my previous post together with other stuff not coming from me.

The facts:
-The map offers an isometric view, not in-game 3D as the pics Fatnoob posted.
-The map is all I have at my disposal to make up my mind.
-Indeed the screenshots looks amazing, but I can't see that in the map and it takes quite a bit to load for me, so I judged based on what I could see in a 10 minutes scrolling.
-I failed to spot those underpasses, canyons and good stuff and focused on the "suspiciously convenient green circles around flattened land".
-It's been confimed that the land is partially manmade, with convenient access routes to wild spots.

If there are the 1.7 default biomes out there, good.
I couldn't find them in a 10-minutes scrolling, or I failed to recognize them hence my previous comments.

FYI: you can edit a quote, so when you quote something make sure to keep it in context.

Maybe it's because i can't view the map in 3D yet, but all four of my favorite 1.7 biomes don't seem to be present.  Roofed Forest (Black Forest), Mesa (Bryce), Ice Plains Spikes, and Flower Forest.  I might be missing something though.  Also, would it be possible to add a smaller alternate wilderness map that has been generated by a random minecraft seed?

My first impression with the Town World was "this is clearly not the default terrain generation".
Seems to me all the area around spawn is carefully manifactured, with clearly visible circles of trees/rough terrain around flattened land.

I'd rather have a natural looking land that I could _choose_ to flatten to build a town and a wilderness world that is truly wild.

Feels like for some reasons the admins thought that no one wanted to build a mountain village, a lake district or anything different from a featureless place with houses.
Flattening the terrain takes hours, agreed, but crafting mountains, forests and lakes takes even more...

They are a infinite amount( I think), but the chests take up some memory I believe, that's why you need to make a application and 10 people in a town.

Yeah I guess they can put a bit of stress on the server together with the generated queries, understood, thanks.

I didn't mean that they have to start the countdown right now, but that they should simply say "yes, we are sure that the release will be in 2 weeks unless major bad stuff, over which we have no control, happens", because at the moment we don't have even that.

Ok, if the delay is only after the retraction I shouldn't have any problem.

To avoid dupes 7 seconds seems a bit long anyway. The dupe glitch used fast pulses and even just a "normal" clock can't achieve that.

Basically what I'm going to do is a community service divided in "input" and "output" using a piston for each side:
It will detect a player, retract a piston to make way ahead, have the player wait a few seconds to be sure nothing is stuck (I can calibrate this so that it's the same as the piston delay); then extend the piston again to avoid clogging up the contraption.

The second piston will simply extend and retract once and manages the "output" so there shouldn't be any problem.

Since this is relevant for the topic I'll continue here instead of opening a new one

I had quite a bit of time to optimize a certain build and I'd like to know how exactly the piston delay will work.
This will cut off a lot of trial and error (that I've already done locally) to adjust the timing and avoid a lot of manual work for the people using it.


What I'd like to know:

-Is the delay set on the extension of the piston or on its retraction?
-How long is the delay?

I've just edited the description giving credit to the owner of the song (that means I can use it, eh? )edit: I've just changed the song, hope thats ok aha

That's not how it works and even less how youtube works >_>

All I see when I click that link is a black background 

Problem solved, I didn't have time to test it before but it was caused by protection filters.

we recommend that you build near a river.. as you can see, we expanded the rivers to cover a mass amount of land. This is a great way to travel between towns, or even travel between one half of your town to another. River towns ftw

I agree that it would be a very cool (and potentially very very fast) way of traveling around but at the same time I know how boats work in Minecraft and cringe thinking about it

Technically speaking it wouldn't even be necessary because hostile mobs spawning can be disabled (and is disabled by default) within towns borders.

On the other hand, it would be cool as an aesthetic feature. As long as they don't do the villagers "hmm" sound.

Since those would be permanent entities, I can see how that could be a problem even if limited to a very few per town since the number of towns can only go up and never decrease.
Nothing prevents people from creating 100+ towns resulting in dead weight for the server and possibly reducing the performance of the dynamic spawn system they explained earlier.

Also, if hostile mobs were enabled the guards would eventually be killed. So the server would have to either spawn them indefinitely or make them invulnerable.

Option A would could be an even worse problem, Option B could trivialize resource gathering.

That said, I'd immensely prefer to have 2 permanent sheeps in town instead of X guards.