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I preferred the chest shops. This new system is simply too devious. I'd rather have a more straight-forward system instead of being forced to use the website while in the game.
Unless I heard wrong, chest shops will still exist.Also...how hard is it to open a web browser? Minecraft doesn't exactly use up a lot of system resources.
I was under the understanding that this system would completely replace the chest shops. I'd love to hear I'm wrong.
Also... of course it isn't hard to open a webbrowser. It's about the nuisance that is alt + tabbing all the time between Minecraft and the site. When I play a game, I want to play the game, and not spend my time switching between all sorts of appendixes to the game.
Quote from: Reigando on 11 Nov 2013, 10:35:04Unless I heard wrong, chest shops will still exist.Also...how hard is it to open a web browser? Minecraft doesn't exactly use up a lot of system resources.I was under the understanding that this system would completely replace the chest shops. I'd love to hear I'm wrong.Also... of course it isn't hard to open a webbrowser. It's about the nuisance that is alt + tabbing all the time between Minecraft and the site. When I play a game, I want to play the game, and not spend my time switching between all sorts of appendixes to the game. And not a lot of resources? Maybe if you can live with staring at 16x16 pixel blocks, but I prefer to use 128 x 128 texture packs to make the graphics sorta bareable.
Even with texture packs and full graphics options you won't use up that much relative to other games. I almost never have solely minecraft open, I'll do two games at once, a web browser and something on VLC, and that's just on the main computer. I guess multitasking comes naturally to me so it doesn't bother me. It's still not that much more effort than a normal chest shop to sell stuff and you reach a larger, more competitive sales market where you can actually move the stuff. It's definitely way easier and more convenient on the buying end.
Second part, it will take longer to buy stuff with an online auction system and, with the fluctuating prices that come with an auction system, also more expensive for people if they buy stuff in bulk, which as a result leads to fewer people starting big projects because they will be more expensive, and discourage a lot of people.
umm can't you guys just do the ingame auctions?
Quote from: Reigando on 11 Nov 2013, 18:23:08Even with texture packs and full graphics options you won't use up that much relative to other games. I almost never have solely minecraft open, I'll do two games at once, a web browser and something on VLC, and that's just on the main computer. I guess multitasking comes naturally to me so it doesn't bother me. It's still not that much more effort than a normal chest shop to sell stuff and you reach a larger, more competitive sales market where you can actually move the stuff. It's definitely way easier and more convenient on the buying end.First part, disagreed. Minecraft asks more of my computer on full graphics than for example, Battlefield 3 on max graphics.Second part, it will take longer to buy stuff with an online auction system and, with the fluctuating prices that come with an auction system, also more expensive for people if they buy stuff in bulk, which as a result leads to fewer people starting big projects because they will be more expensive, and discourage a lot of people.
Quote from: matanatr96 on 19 Jan 2014, 00:36:09So does this mean that we wont be able to have little shops like in V5?Chest shops will still be in-game, however the main means of economy will be through the auction.
So does this mean that we wont be able to have little shops like in V5?
Quote from: HarryX11 on 19 Jan 2014, 04:46:45Quote from: AdrianCavi on 19 Jan 2014, 01:50:10Quote from: matanatr96 on 19 Jan 2014, 00:36:09So does this mean that we wont be able to have little shops like in V5?Chest shops will still be in-game, however the main means of economy will be through the auction. I think the chest shops are still going to be predominant in terms of how the economy revolves, but the auction will definitely have an impact on the economy. I say this because not everyone uses the website, but everyone who plays uses the server. You need to use the website for part of the auction, whereas chest shops will never need for you to go to the website. Many people will just be like meh I can just buy from shop chestsTrue true, the thing is.. The on-site auction has a huge advantage: time. It is a lot quicker to log on, type in what you are looking to buy, and have it transfered than to run shop to shop after items. There will definitely be a lot of trading through the chests still though, it'll just be a matter of hopping towns to buy things since there will be no market district.
Quote from: AdrianCavi on 19 Jan 2014, 01:50:10Quote from: matanatr96 on 19 Jan 2014, 00:36:09So does this mean that we wont be able to have little shops like in V5?Chest shops will still be in-game, however the main means of economy will be through the auction. I think the chest shops are still going to be predominant in terms of how the economy revolves, but the auction will definitely have an impact on the economy. I say this because not everyone uses the website, but everyone who plays uses the server. You need to use the website for part of the auction, whereas chest shops will never need for you to go to the website. Many people will just be like meh I can just buy from shop chests
Nope, they never planned on adding a market district for a few reasons:The new auction system is much easier and things can be tracked/monitoredYour plot on the market gave you an unfair advantage in marketingMost players do not enjoy running shop to shop
Your plot on the market gave you an unfair advantage in marketing
Quote from: Citebafla on 13 Nov 2013, 14:26:36Second part, it will take longer to buy stuff with an online auction system and, with the fluctuating prices that come with an auction system, also more expensive for people if they buy stuff in bulk, which as a result leads to fewer people starting big projects because they will be more expensive, and discourage a lot of people.Hm, I don't really see big projects at risk. We had people in V5 that specialised in dealing with such bulkorders (without chestshops, some even had huge stockpiles of the most wanted blocks to fullfill orders faster). You told them how much you needed of a certain block and they told you the time they would need to get it. The prices were always quite reasonable and chestshops in V5 had the tendency to be empty when you needed huge amounts of blocks (i.e. 500 red & 250 white wool blocks or 500 stacks of sandstone).My guess is that V6 will also have bulk-gatherers like these that are very willing to turn quite a profit on bigger orders, so the auctionsystem will not be the only way to do business. Especially in the period of time when all the new V6towns are being made (townprojects, streets, etc.) there could be quite a demand and therefore the chance for noob$ (and earning the reputation of being a reliable bulk-supplier).
I can think of already 1 good reason that i'm happy to have the auction now:Massive FPS drop when entering the market, because of the signs and other stuff like item frames.