You can't place blocks against land you don't have access to  (Read 1977 times)

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Vailure

"You can't place blocks against land you don't have access to"

That right there kinda messes up some stuff along borders...can we rethink this

ItsLawrence

"You can't place blocks against land you don't have access to"

That right there kinda messes up some stuff along borders...can we rethink this
You can still place blocks in the outermost areas of your land you just can't use the blocks outside of your land to do so. You can do it by placing blocks against the land you own and not using the walls of land you don't own.

This is to prevent some issues where blocks could be placed against land which could in theory be broken from land you didn't own, resulting in the loss of your items. If you place against land you own you won't have any issues.
« Last Edit: 9 Feb 2015, 00:22:18 by ItsLawrence »

Vailure

You can still place blocks in the outermost areas of your land you just can't use the blocks outside of your land to do so. You can do it by placing blocks against the land you own and not using the walls of land you don't own.

This is to prevent some issues where blocks could be placed against land which could in theory be broken from land you didn't own, resulting in the loss of your items. If you place against land you own you won't have any issues.

I was setting up a ladder down to my bedrock layer, and it's all there save for the bottom which was fine until this past update it's never gave me the error before except when I placed a chest against the border.

If it's something that's going to be persistent I just have some work to figure out, if it's reversible then it would save me that work. it's land against wild, so technically no one is breaking anything out there, and the closest neighbor already has proper permissions but isn't touching my borders.

I just need to know how it's going to work so I can plan accordingly.





ItsLawrence

Re: You can't place blocks against land you don't have access to
« Reply #3 on: 10 Feb 2015, 16:21:26 »
I was setting up a ladder down to my bedrock layer, and it's all there save for the bottom which was fine until this past update it's never gave me the error before except when I placed a chest against the border.

If it's something that's going to be persistent I just have some work to figure out, if it's reversible then it would save me that work. it's land against wild, so technically no one is breaking anything out there, and the closest neighbor already has proper permissions but isn't touching my borders.

I just need to know how it's going to work so I can plan accordingly.
The point of the system blocking you from directly placing against land you don't own is to try and discourage exactly what you're trying to do. If you place a ladder against the land you don't own and then a friend of yours buys that land they would be able to break the block holding up the ladder and thus break the ladder.

You are still able to do it by a clever placement of blocks but the point of this change is to try and discourage you from doing it, and to instead place them against a block you actually own (and thus they are protected), a simple pillar would allow you to attach a ladder.

This is definitely a feature we'd be willing to review if the demand to place against walls really out-ways the small chance of a "wall block" being lost though; but at this time I would suggest building a pillar to place them on.

Vailure

Re: You can't place blocks against land you don't have access to
« Reply #4 on: 10 Feb 2015, 20:14:26 »
The point of the system blocking you from directly placing against land you don't own is to try and discourage exactly what you're trying to do. If you place a ladder against the land you don't own and then a friend of yours buys that land they would be able to break the block holding up the ladder and thus break the ladder.

You are still able to do it by a clever placement of blocks but the point of this change is to try and discourage you from doing it, and to instead place them against a block you actually own (and thus they are protected), a simple pillar would allow you to attach a ladder.

This is definitely a feature we'd be willing to review if the demand to place against walls really out-ways the small chance of a "wall block" being lost though; but at this time I would suggest building a pillar to place them on.

It just seems we are technically losing a blocks worth of space around our owned land then, as nothing can be placed there, it's fine if that's the way it is...it sort of makes sense in context. For me it just comes after work had already been done, albeit not a ton of work but still... I'll re-arrange and work it out.

Thanks for the input on the issue.


EttaDreamfeather

Re: You can't place blocks against land you don't have access to
« Reply #5 on: 10 Feb 2015, 22:16:00 »
You're only technically losing a block's space over items that require being placed on a block that's not in your land. Such as torches, or ladders, or paintings/etc. Because it relies on the block it's being placed on for it to be there, and therefore if that block is broken the item will be broken as well, it can cause a problem. It shouldn't stop you from building actual blocks, so long as you're directly placing them on blocks you own.

Imagine, for instance, that you had an item frame with a very valuable item within it that you placed against a block in the wild. Now your friend comes along, buys that chunk, and happens to break the block which that frame is in. Now your friend can choose to tell you and give you the item..... or keep it and there wouldn't be any real proof of what was in the frame for you to even report them to moderators for.

You can see how it could cause quite a bit of a problem from this point of view.

mrfloris

Re: You can't place blocks against land you don't have access to
« Reply #6 on: 10 Feb 2015, 22:28:55 »
You're only technically losing a block's space over items that require being placed on a block that's not in your land. Such as torches, or ladders, or paintings/etc. Because it relies on the block it's being placed on for it to be there, and therefore if that block is broken the item will be broken as well, it can cause a problem. It shouldn't stop you from building actual blocks, so long as you're directly placing them on blocks you own.

Imagine, for instance, that you had an item frame with a very valuable item within it that you placed against a block in the wild. Now your friend comes along, buys that chunk, and happens to break the block which that frame is in. Now your friend can choose to tell you and give you the item..... or keep it and there wouldn't be any real proof of what was in the frame for you to even report them to moderators for.

You can see how it could cause quite a bit of a problem from this point of view.

Yes, but, that's exactly what you do. You place a painting against the wall, or a torch .. You're not placing them on a block which will then stick out, ..