Quote from: bad_german on  6 Feb 2012, 23:04:38

Quote from: SammoBammo on  6 Feb 2012, 22:36:57

You black mailed me saying give my donation back , the  started smashing down my town house, unacceptable, now spreading a bad word, you have no respect

When I invested (and it wasn't a donation, as I was fully expecting a return - and this was agreed on) you told me the town would be started on the weekend. This didn't happen. I asked about it over the weekend and all I got as a reply was something to the sum of "we need orange wool first". Nothing else, most of my inquiries were met with silence. Orange wool seems like the least relevant thing to actually starting a town as it applied to simply your own private home.

I never black mailed you, I asked nicely many many times. Half of the time I was met with "I'm leaving soon."

"Smashing down my town house"... I'm sorry thats just using inciteful language. After a long time of getting no where talking I showed up the 'town site'. My strong arm tactic was to remove eight ( blocks from the front face of the only noticeable structure. Which I did replace very promptly. That's hardly 'smashing down my house'. After this I also placed a protected sign with the text "inconvenient sign".

So, please. Show respect to me as well.

I should state though, that after posting the message (removed by Licksterboy and recieved a warning for). SammoBammo did oblige my request to return my investment (20k nbz). The protected sign in the doorway removed at that point.

My good faith sentiments aren't yet restored, but this issue is resolved and we can all get on with our minecrafting.

Regards,
Bad_German

Now hold on a second. I have just heard two very different stories about this issue. I need to ask, did any of you get any sort of screen shot? Furthermore, let me just get this out there, any type of briefing, even if you put it back is not acceptable. The fact that you did the crime not to mention other irresponsible actions like leaving a protected sign is not acceptable. I do not want to sound like I am calling you out bad_greman, but now that I have heard two different stories, I am afraid this issue has become more in depth.

Thank you Licksterboy for taking the time to look into it. Unfortunately I had didn't forsee needing screenshots. If there are server chat logs available, those might clear things up.

Yes, I agree there isn't necessarily a threshold of where an action isn't griefing if it's unwanted by another person.

The 8 blocks were only taken down for the whole duration of about 2 minutes, (in the chat logs this takes places during the first time he says "I'm reporting you", the other instances of him saying he'll report were directed at another player in an unrelated issue.)

If it makes any considerable difference in your opinion, the sign's intent wasn't for longevity of any kind. It was there as a standing reminder that SammoBammo was to return the investment, as near the end of our discourse he kept saying he'd "send me the money tomorrow". Which is entirely a sketchy statement as money transfers aren't something which take time or effort to initiate.

I though it was a donation in return for a cheap plot, I want you away from my town and to stop spreading bad words , I have  I time or this and the process of my town, this town process is very slow and long, I have no help , apart from MatsukaAtsushi, I've asked for help many times, yes I was goin to buy my town this week, but I can't now, I have to keep working on the amount of nbz I have now , I don't want anything to happen to any of us, can we stay out of eachothers way and he on with the sever

Well a donation in return for anything, is not a donation in my mind.

I certainly hope I'm not spreading any bad words at this point.

I will oblige and stay away.

Best of luck to you and the town.

Quote from: SammoBammo on  6 Feb 2012, 23:22:11

I though it was a donation in return for a cheap plot, I want you away from my town and to stop spreading bad words , I have  I time or this and the process of my town, this town process is very slow and long, I have no help , apart from MatsukaAtsushi, I've asked for help many times, yes I was goin to buy my town this week, but I can't now, I have to keep working on the amount of nbz I have now , I don't want anything to happen to any of us, can we stay out of eachothers way and he on with the sever

Well a donation in return for anything, is not a donation in my mind.

I certainly hope I'm not spreading any bad words at this point.

I will oblige and stay away.

Best of luck to you and the town.

  Thanks for being reasonable here, this is a good choice that you have made.

Sam, maybe edit that first post a bit? I don't think we need a TA as I am going to be one. I think one TA for now is plenty. I might ask you to pick a 2nd TA when I don't have as much time to play anymore.