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Darkwings

Is gambling ok?
« on: 9 Oct 2013, 03:38:24 »
As the title says, can we make games on the server that involves paying with an item and receiving other items in case of victory?
« Last Edit: 9 Oct 2013, 04:09:22 by Darkwings »

Darkwings

Re: Is gambling ok?
« Reply #1 on: 9 Oct 2013, 03:48:57 »
Quote from: AdrianCavi on  9 Oct 2013, 03:44:54
I would say so as long as you don't scam anyone in any way. V6 will include slot machines, so in that sense... Gambling is all good :)

I must have missed the part about slot machines... where are those supposed to be?

Xavier1964

Re: Is gambling ok?
« Reply #2 on: 9 Oct 2013, 04:24:29 »
in any other case i'd probably say no, buuut this IS noobscraft v6, so...sure why not. LOL

edixsabourin

Re: Is gambling ok?
« Reply #3 on: 9 Oct 2013, 04:43:50 »
Gambling games are fine, but if you start scamming people, expect a nice little BAN.

Xavier1964

Re: Is gambling ok?
« Reply #4 on: 9 Oct 2013, 04:49:47 »
Quote from: edixsabourin on  9 Oct 2013, 04:43:50
Gambling games are fine, but if you start scamming people, expect a nice little BAN.
lol Exactly, Scammers Beware!

Darkwings

Re: Is gambling ok?
« Reply #5 on: 9 Oct 2013, 20:44:10 »
I've managed to find the 18 seconds video on YT that shows the slot machine in action.

Other than fireworks going off there's no sign of actually winning something, nor having to pay something to play so... technically that's not gambling.

Since I'm planning a few different games I'd like an official answer on the matter  :)

MagicMan27

Re: Is gambling ok?
« Reply #6 on: 9 Oct 2013, 21:49:39 »
Yes you do win money, if you want to play it you can go on the mineapoc server where it is there.

EmperorMyrf

Re: Is gambling ok?
« Reply #7 on: 9 Oct 2013, 21:53:51 »
Not only have there been many player driven gambling games (all redstone driven) but also there have been and will be a few plugin driven gambling opportunities. Unless I'm mistaken there will be both a casino and a server-wide lottery.

But yes ensure that your games aren't rigged in any way.

MagicMan27

Re: Is gambling ok?
« Reply #8 on: 9 Oct 2013, 22:03:21 »
Emp the 18 sec video he saw was the noobscraft automated casino.

Foob

Re: Is gambling ok?
« Reply #9 on: 9 Oct 2013, 22:21:39 »
Gambling within our systems such as the Lottery, Slot machines, eventually Chicken roulette and Horse racing are all acceptable forms of moderated and server-run gambling on the server in v6. Any other forms of gambling are not safe and if such acts break the scamming rules, ban will be given out.

As always, we try and keep an acceptable amount of fun and enjoyment in the server, we don't encourage gambling in real life. Gambling within the server is within a safe environment on admin monitored machines and all of which features are safe. Exploring gambling in a safe virtual environment with virtual money is the best way to learn and understand the whole concept in my personal opinion.

Olah0001

Re: Is gambling ok?
« Reply #10 on: 9 Oct 2013, 22:23:07 »
well officially the "gambling" you've been talking about some people were doing it in v5... as long as u scam no one then you should be good...

Foob

Re: Is gambling ok?
« Reply #11 on: 9 Oct 2013, 22:24:26 »
Quote from: Olah0001 on  9 Oct 2013, 22:23:07
well officially the "gambling" you've been talking about some people were doing it in v5... as long as u scam no one then you should be good...

We don't mind people making games and doing gambling but we don't advise players to put their full trust in those methods, as they are not ran by the server nor are 100% scam proof.

Darkwings

Re: Is gambling ok?
« Reply #12 on: 9 Oct 2013, 23:44:14 »
Quote from: Fatnoob on  9 Oct 2013, 22:24:26
We don't mind people making games and doing gambling but we don't advise players to put their full trust in those methods, as they are not ran by the server nor are 100% scam proof.

I understand the problem with trusting someone else, but I planned to keep games based on hidden chances strictly just for fun (possibly with an entry fee) while giving the possibility to pay and win prizes with other games.

A slot machine is based on hidden chances so it can be rigged, but games where winning is determine only by the actions of the player are safe I guess.


Examples:

An automated guessing game where players guess "green" or "red".
They would see the result right away and if they guessed right, they win.
There would be no point in "rigging" the machine since players would see they're being cheated as soon as the they'd see the result.

Same goes for games that requires timing, aim, and any other skill (jumping puzzles, speed contest, reflexes) can be considered safe too, as long as the rules are clear I guess.

Can such games be considered "safe"?

Xavier1964

Re: Is gambling ok?
« Reply #13 on: 10 Oct 2013, 00:23:16 »
Quote from: Darkwings on  9 Oct 2013, 23:44:14
Quote from: Fatnoob on  9 Oct 2013, 22:24:26
We don't mind people making games and doing gambling but we don't advise players to put their full trust in those methods, as they are not ran by the server nor are 100% scam proof.

I understand the problem with trusting someone else, but I planned to keep games based on hidden chances strictly just for fun (possibly with an entry fee) while giving the possibility to pay and win prizes with other games.

A slot machine is based on hidden chances so it can be rigged, but games where winning is determine only by the actions of the player are safe I guess.


Examples:

An automated guessing game where players guess "green" or "red".
They would see the result right away and if they guessed right, they win.
There would be no point in "rigging" the machine since players would see they're being cheated as soon as the they'd see the result.

Same goes for games that requires timing, aim, and any other skill (jumping puzzles, speed contest, reflexes) can be considered safe too, as long as the rules are clear I guess.

Can such games be considered "safe"?


can they be considered "safe"? its up to the admins really i guess. does anyone else agree with me?
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