New Organization (NURT): Restoring Noobstown, One Step at a time  (Read 7119 times)

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fish_james

This idea has been in my head for quite sometime, and finally has come together where I feel I will do a good job leading this Organization.   Now I have heard a LOT of people who want to help the server, so they apply as mods but sometimes get it, although they still want to help the server out.  Well, here is a GREAT opportunity to show you really want to help the server out. 

 - What name we live under

At the moment, it is Called  NURT:  (Noobs United to Restore and Thrive)  if you have a better name, pitch the idea here on the comments!

 - The Issue

 If you have looked around the server, there are places in the main building world that are destroyed; places where a new town could thrive, and it has saddened me.  Examples are whole deserts dug out for miles to stone, whole forests deforests and all that is left are HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS of floating trees; also Mine shafts that are dug to the bottom of the Minecraft world.   

 - What we are here for

We are here to Restore and Thrive, meaning that we will go around in either groups or alone, fixing the main world.

1. Replanting Forests/ taking down floating trees

2. Fixing a desert so it is at least viewable

3. Replacing dirt from griefing holes

4.  Covering up giant Mine Shafts in the middle of the Main World

5.  Spreading smart ideas, like going to the Mining World to mine and not leave floating trees around.

6.  Take donations so that we can pay people to repair more of Noobstown/ buy more supplies to fix Noobstown.

I will be needing a few leaders along me who deal with the money and organizing the workers and projects.  I am putting all of my money in this if I get enough support, and will be gathering all the supplies I CAN to get this thing started.  If we get a big enough group, I would love to do group projects to have fun while fixing things.   

For extra fun, if we do a big project, I want to post a before and after picture of each project we do, and it will be an awesome feeling.  I hope you think this is a great idea, I would love some support and feel this is a very needed thing to do on the server.

NOTE: PLEASE POST BELOW IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DONATE/ HELP OUT SO I CAN GET IN CONTACT WITH YOU ASAP

From,

Fish_james
Founder of Oakvale
« Last Edit: 28 Sep 2012, 05:55:10 by fish_james »

RemoteMine

Same as Minkz, I would also want to be involved, I'm taking a break from modded Minecraft so this is the perfect opportunity to have fun with Vanilla :)

UnlikelyPirate

Well, I would help but im always broke. Im always trying to refill my bank account and juggling that with running a large town too.

This sounds like an epic project. There is a "settlement" of abandoned structures near my town that are sooooo ugly and detrimental to the landscape that I would love to see the group start there. It was too much to look at so I actually used resources to build a wall around my town to avoid looking at it. That would be where I started if I help.

Sign me up as a junior member and get me an official membership ring. I will try and do this when I can!

HappyLeverpostej

Im ready to DOnate some moneys, and i can get suplys for the ''builders''. I hope you can need my help

DKMaxi

buckieUK09

See if any of you guys REALLY, REALLY! Want to help the server out, I have your answer. Donate. Donating will help the server get stronger, more activity's will arise, even better pluggins and the most important of all, it will keep the server alive.
« Last Edit: 28 Sep 2012, 11:48:27 by BuckieUK09 »

Jayjay36

This is a great idea, James, but only a small percentage of the players on NoobsCraft are active on the forums, more than half the players don't read the forums so every project we/you were to fix up would be demolished again over time, we'd be wasting time, resources and money. It's a brilliant idea, but I personally don't think it would work for that reason.

Miner_man123456

If we were going to fix up the world outside of spawn again it would just be destroyed again within days, the area outside of spawn (Wilderness) is a place where you can destroy and do what you want when it is not taken as a grief, destroying a desert or leaving floating trees is not a grief and people will do it just to be annoying towards other players in a way they cant be punished.

Fixing the area will be a waste of items, money and valuable time cause it will quickly be destroyed again, sorry to say this.

It is a awesome and helpful idea towards fixing up the world but I wont participate :/

Orpheus_only

I'm helping out in some capacity as well, Fish. We need some coordinates though. I'd suggest, if anyone finds a wasteland, post the coordinates here with a short description of what biome it is and what its surroundings are. Then we'll be able to pinpoint what places we're currently working on, so that restoration projects would be more coordinated.

And---Miner has a point. We're never gonna be able to restore everything. For some places we'll just have to maybe close it off with fences and put a sign that says "Wasteland" or something.

Those are my thoughts, so far. I'll get back soon when I've fashioned a formless clump of ideas in my head.

EDIT: I'll keep editing this as long as there are no new posts :), so stay... erm... posted.
Umm. Fish, can you make an official list of resources/blocks/things that we'll need? Saplings, stacks of sand, dirt, bonemeal... That way, people can know what exactly they can donate.

Oooh! And we'll need headquarters! People could just /tpa or /t spawn wherever the NURT office is, and maybe have the chests on /cmodify or /cpassword. Or do a shop plot where we buy stuff for 0 noobs (essentially donating).
« Last Edit: 28 Sep 2012, 16:28:00 by ummfredfelizco »

EttaDreamfeather

I feel it necessary to point out that you are not allowed to destroy structures/creations you find in the wilderness. This would be griefing, no matter how abandoned the place looks. If you feel it necessary however you could try to contact an admin to ask about every structure you find. But that is a long and tedious process, so I can imagine no one wants to bother with that.

So simply fixing vast planes of destroyed wilderness I feel is the best course of action, instead of trying to clear out abandoned buildings, which can get you in trouble for griefing.

Menaki

Honestly, I like the idea, but I wouldn't do that without a permission.
I understand, that destroy structures/creations in wilderness can handle as a grief, but if I want to replant a floating tree, is that also a grief?  :(
Maybe one or two person(s) could get the permission for replanting from the admins or mods?

And yes, I like trees  <3.
« Last Edit: 29 Sep 2012, 00:08:41 by Menaki »

Boon40

I attempted to do this, with my "Wood for the Noobs!" Event. but hat only happened twice, and failed after because nobody cared anymore. I'd be more than glad to help you James. I could manage the group's money, as I like to do that with my own. I can easily obtain materials and tools needed for "repairs", or purchase them if needed. I hope I can help, as I will be extremely committed to this, because it was something I tried once before, but it lost interest. You will not lose interest from me in this, friend.

          -Edit : Just checked, have loads of saplings left from my previous events. I suggest we construct a facility, protected by nothing, proving new member's trust if they do not grief it. We can easily hold materials there, and give the leaders of the group access to them, so they can personally distribute them to the members and/or workers. I don't think there will be a shortage for volunteers for this project, but as I said, I will gladly handle the group's finances if workers need to be paid and/or materials need to be purchased.
« Last Edit: 29 Sep 2012, 00:43:17 by Krazzylegs »

EttaDreamfeather

Oh yes, trees are a different thing. Unless it's rather obvious that it's a tree farm of a person's you can most definitely just go around tearing down floating trees and replacing them as much as you want. Although I suppose if the tree farm of a person's is wrecked you can be generous and take down floating trees there and replace them.

What I was meaning was simply buildings and such, as well as farms. Definitely taking down someone's farmland would be wrong, unless again if you wished to replace the damaged farmland.

Edit: I can get a lot of oak saplings, and I have overflowing amounts of jungle saplings if they are needed for this project.

Halikar

I think Fish's purpose is very admirable, and I'd like to call on people to look on the purpose rather than the execution to find fault with. Sure, there are obstacles and things that need checking with moderators to be accomplished to avoid breaking rules. Yes, the general server population won't care and may actively harvest what is being painstakingly placed to improve the look of the server. Of course there are other ways to actively help the server such as donating. All that is beside the point.

The point, at least as I am interpreting it (Fish can certainly give a better account since it's his idea), is to actively try and change how people play the game for the better, to get people to think beyond their own needs and building desires and look toward a more community thought process.

The obvious argument against this is that most people won't care. So what? That doesn't alter the value of the idea or that it may be worth doing. Nor does the difficulties faced in executing it make it any less valuable a task.

There once was a man who wanted tyrants out of his country. He took a stand in a way that most people thought was crazy, that would never work, that the payoff was so remote the effort wasn't worth doing. Gandhi succeeded, in spite of all the odds stacked against him. I think this idea has far less going against it than Gandhi did with his.

Orpheus_only

...The point, at least as I am interpreting it (Fish can certainly give a better account since it's his idea), is to actively try and change how people play the game for the better, to get people to think beyond their own needs and building desires and look toward a more community thought process...

So in a sense, it's more of promoting a consciousness about the environment. Like a philosophical movement of sorts. "The purpose, rather than the execution." That's a nice perspective to it :) In fact, 5th on Fish's list:

5.  Spreading smart ideas, like going to the Mining World to mine and not leave floating trees around.
(emphasis added)

At any rate. Fish, you lead and initiate; we'll follow! We await your detailed instructions.

EDIT:
What if---for places that are beyond restoration---what if we build something really beautiful over it, instead of restoring the place? It will paint a contrasting picture of ruin vs artistry, in hopes that people will have more respect for the environment. (just an idea)
« Last Edit: 29 Sep 2012, 03:53:55 by ummfredfelizco »

Jayjay36


EDIT:
What if---for places that are beyond restoration---what if we build something really beautiful over it, instead of restoring the place? It will paint a contrasting picture of ruin vs artistry, in hopes that people will have more respect for the environment. (just an idea)
This is what Twisted was speaking about, you're not able to destroy structures such as ruins because it may still be someone's property, asking the staff to check every ruin would be a "long tedious process" like Twisted said.
« Last Edit: 29 Sep 2012, 16:00:21 by Jayjay36 »

Licksterboy

Great idea! I'd be willing to help! I am just going to piggyback on what twisted said, please leave structures alone and leave them for the staff. If I remember correctly, we as moderators are supposed to be undergoing operation clean up where we take down abandoned structures and what not.

MagicMan27

I know of a desert you can try to restore that has been stripped of all its sand.

Boon40

We shouldn't touch the Mining World, really. It's pointless to do so, it resets every month, we need to focus on repairing the main world.

Halikar

Yeah, anything that increases the amount of work the mods have to do is not a good idea. I'd even ask if making a list of locations that might be abandoned for them is something they'd want if they have their own clean up effort going on, simply because it IS work and they need to have fun time too (and too long a list isn't going to promote that :) ).

fish_james

I'm glad to see people are interested in NURT!

To correct some peoples misconception of the whole point of the organization and a  few people understood what I meant.  But just to clear things up;

 -  We aren't promoting destroying old buildings unless permission from an admin.

 -  We are going to focus on the Main World, NOT the mining world.

 -  You don't need money to help! All you need to do is volunteer to help and I will supply you the best I can.

And a side note to the people opposing the idea;  I appreciate that you believe it is pointless, but there are two reasons why I MAINLY am doing this.

1.  It spreads the idea of the betterment of something other than yourself, which in return makes you feel good  (along with practicing good techniques like destroying the last wood block in trees/replanting or using the mining world to quarry a desert)

2.  EVERY BIT COUNTS!  I understand, along with others, that there is no possible way to fix everything, obviously.   Just like in real life, people volunteer to, let us say, pick up trash.  Every bit helps, and if nobody helps the problem just gets worse.     The thing is if we could fix up a large area, a new town could arise.  OR the outside of spawn, we could at least fix it so it doesn't look like a stone - covered post apocalypse area. (This will promote new players, who usually go into this area, to stay on the server and not think it is an unmanaged server.  I only say this because new players HAVE said this. ).   

Krazzylegs, Minkz, and anybody else who would like to help, I will be working ASAP on this to organize our first project, and hopefully getting pictures up by sunday.   Sadly, I will be gone for a week camping starting this Monday, so DON'T THINK THE PROJECT IS ABANDONED HAHA!   I would love for you to keep discussing it, and will most likely be able to check the forums, due to me having to get on a little for my online classes.

When the first project is getting close to starting and we get a central location to store the donated items for the projects, I will send a PM to anyone who is interested, which I will see who is according to what you post under this forum. 

Thank you again for the support, and keep pitching your ideas!!  At the central location, most likely my house,  I will put up a suggestion board as well.

  Something else I just thought up is that we should promote the places we restore for someone to start a town/ make a home

Thanks,

Fish_james
Founder of Oakvale

Boon40

Have fun on your camping trip, can't wait for our first project!

metalchick1189

This actually sounds like fun, count me in!  <3

ben501

I like the idea and I would like to help (if my schedule allows me to do it), send me a message through the forum or if you see me in-game and you need then send the message.

You know what twisted say about:

I feel it necessary to point out that you are not allowed to destroy structures/creations you find in the wilderness. This would be griefing, no matter how abandoned the place looks. If you feel it necessary however you could try to contact an admin to ask about every structure you find. But that is a long and tedious process, so I can imagine no one wants to bother with that.

So simply fixing vast planes of destroyed wilderness I feel is the best course of action, instead of trying to clear out abandoned buildings, which can get you in trouble for griefing.

She is right, I almost got ban last time i tried and help someone restore a town, yeah my mistake. So follow my only rule when you are out in the wilderness "when in doubt, ask"

Dont get ban, see ya

viciousvinny

Great idea fish, but i'll have to say i just don't have the time to do that at the moment.

MESSAGE FOR FATNOOB:

For the new map if there is one i would suggest you download Terrain Control before doing anything, it's a terrain generator modifier and controls every tiny little variable of terrain generation.

I have lots of experience with this plugin and i've came up with the idea of making a preset for you that disables ore, gravel and dirt pockets, ravines and cave spawning altogether to make construction easier and put people off ruining the main world through mining.

The plugin itself doesn't take up much memory at all, is compatible with many plugins and the devs keep it up to date like ninjas so i strongly stick with my decesion that this will be a change only for the better.

Bukkit page of TC: http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/terrain-control/

Raiden600

I do this kind of clean up when wandering around the wild.  Floating treetops bug me.  I've been helping a few other like-minded people patch up other beat up pieces of the wilderness, so the fine sentiment is definitely about the server.