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Nebih

Guests...
« on: 9 Nov 2012, 00:54:09 »
I think guests shouldn't be allowed to talk. They are always spamming, and asking to join towns without reading the signs. It can get annoying after a while. I don't want to /ignore them because it isn't fair to the player. :L Anyone else?

EttaDreamfeather

Re: Guests...
« Reply #1 on: 9 Nov 2012, 01:05:35 »
Well at the same time it wouldn't be fair towards guests that actually have questions. Like those that have issues with registering, or they want to get opinions of the server before actually making a choice on whether they want to spend the time registering and getting involved.

It's a two-sided coin here, and if we turned off the ability for them to talk period then they'd never be able to ask these questions. And it would be unfair to suggest that they could simply private message moderators or use /helpop, since moderators are not always online, and then that would mean when a mod isn't online the guest has absolutely no way to contact anyone else and they'll get fed up with being unable to get help.

Nebih

Re: Guests...
« Reply #2 on: 9 Nov 2012, 01:15:09 »
Hmm.. True.. I didn't think of it that way.. Dang..

craftymatt13

Re: Guests...
« Reply #3 on: 9 Nov 2012, 01:18:23 »
Some guests will ask questions they know the answer to in order to judge how much good help they will be able to get from the members, supports, VIPs, mods and admins. If they are muted, they may assume new players aren't welcome.

Orpheus_only

Re: Guests... (and /ignore)
« Reply #4 on: 9 Nov 2012, 03:01:23 »
Additionally, when we recommend this server to our real life friends (and family), they get on as guests and chat is a convenient way to talk with them.

But, neb does have a point. Like when our trusted mods aren't on and there's a disruptive guest. It seems that /ignore remains the only alternative, and that's what that command is for. It lets members single out and mute disruptive and disrespectful folks: guests and players alike. If they did something to earn it, then they get what they deserve, right? Although, I do wish an /ignore list was available.

We all started out as mere guests.

EDIT: Oh! Another option is to /ch leave g. Like, tell everyone you're gonna do something and you're leaving genchat, if anyone needs you then they /msg you. Down side is you won't get to hear the rest of the members too :/
« Last Edit: 9 Nov 2012, 08:24:50 by ummfredfelizco »

San57x100

Re: Guests...
« Reply #5 on: 9 Nov 2012, 06:42:10 »
Don't worry Nebih. I deal with the guests when I'm online so don't worry :)

Jayjay36

Re: Guests...
« Reply #6 on: 9 Nov 2012, 10:53:20 »
I usually help guests to, I've just not had the chance with alpha testing another server (No advertising intended ._.) and making my new animation.

Nebih

Re: Guests...
« Reply #7 on: 10 Nov 2012, 22:30:56 »
In a way I completely agree, but I also do not. Why? Because, I don't mind helping guests, especially when I know the mods are offline, or they're simply busy. But I ignore those who are blatantly ignoring help, or swearing, etc. I wish they were in their own little world, and we can do /ch leave guest or something :p
This is what I was thinking.. Maybe Guests are stuck in their own channel? And then only Mods see it? And Members can join it if they want to? I don't know though, just an idea

EttaDreamfeather

Re: Guests...
« Reply #8 on: 11 Nov 2012, 00:48:53 »
Again the problem with only mods seeing that channel is that they have absolutely no help whenever a mod isn't online, or the mod is AFK, or extremely busy to respond.

Although if people could choose on their own to join the channel and help out when guests ask questions that might work. But then again there would be moments where everyone online chose to simply leave that channel, leaving the guest helpless.

DrOctagonapus48

Re: Guests...
« Reply #9 on: 11 Nov 2012, 17:28:10 »
maybe you could just put up a sign where the guests spawn and just say only ask questions or you'll be banned

MJfan725

Re: Guests...
« Reply #10 on: 11 Nov 2012, 20:41:37 »
I have an idea. We could make a stricter filter for guests so that when they try to say a bad word it would block them, kinda like when no one could say sell. couldn't you just add that?

AlbatrosV5

Re: Guests...
« Reply #11 on: 12 Nov 2012, 17:30:32 »
Add a new tip to these servertips that show up regularly informing members that there is an /ignore function. That should teach people to deal with disruptive guests.



Guests often seem to ask for help for 2 reasons:
"How do I join?" - They haven't read all the signs.
Well, some people have only a short time of attention and get bored by reading too fast these days. They don't even realize that reading all the signs will answer that question for them. Especially younger ones that are used to get a little pampered by adults in the real life tend to expect people to take care of them instead of thinking for themselfes (if that sounds harsh it's not intended that way but "lost in translation").
Adding a sign at the first board pointing out that "This tutorial will give you informations about the server AND tell you how to join it" might reduce that problem.

"I registered but I'm not a member yet" - They registered but haven't used the email yet.
Maybe the informations explaining the step with the email is phrased or placed on the walls unfortunate, but it seems to cause a little confusion sometimes. Maybe an admin could check if there is anything that could be improved about that part (might not be the case of course, but checking never hurts).

MJfan725

Re: Guests...
« Reply #12 on: 12 Nov 2012, 19:16:29 »
Add a new tip to these servertips that show up regularly informing members that there is an /ignore function. That should teach people to deal with disruptive guests.



Guests often seem to ask for help for 2 reasons:
"How do I join?" - They haven't read all the signs.
Well, some people have only a short time of attention and get bored by reading too fast these days. They don't even realize that reading all the signs will answer that question for them. Especially younger ones that are used to get a little pampered by adults in the real life tend to expect people to take care of them instead of thinking for themselfes (if that sounds harsh it's not intended that way but "lost in translation").
Adding a sign at the first board pointing out that "This tutorial will give you informations about the server AND tell you how to join it" might reduce that problem.

"I registered but I'm not a member yet" - They registered but haven't used the email yet.
Maybe the informations explaining the step with the email is phrased or placed on the walls unfortunate, but it seems to cause a little confusion sometimes. Maybe an admin could check if there is anything that could be improved about that part (might not be the case of course, but checking never hurts).
yes i do agree but theres still the problem of the people who cuss, im not sure but i think you can add a stricter ilter for one rank so like when you say coc*roach it will appear as ****roach. and that's the priceof the filter, but i think you could add a stricter filter for a certain rank, im not sure though.
« Last Edit: 12 Nov 2012, 19:55:02 by MJfan725 »

DrOctagonapus48

Re: Guests...
« Reply #13 on: 12 Nov 2012, 19:54:13 »
good idea

sombrerodude

Re: Guests...
« Reply #14 on: 16 Nov 2012, 03:16:14 »
I agree with this they sometimes have inappropriate names and frequently cuss when tryed to get help they should only be able to talk to mods and admins so we don't have to see there wining