Lava should placable on your own plots.  (Read 4042 times)

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dartflames

Lava should placable on your own plots.
« on: 21 Jul 2012, 01:35:12 »
I'm trying to make a cobblestone generator and I have try working around lava but its a hassle as there is more lava around the lava u want. So I suppose that we should be allowed to place lava on our plots. It cant be abused in pvp and you dont need to worry about your house being burnt down as long as you have firespread off.

masterrbc

Re: Lava should placable on your own plots.
« Reply #1 on: 21 Jul 2012, 06:00:59 »
It could still be used to grief others if you think about it, a player could get another player to come to their house, then be killed by a trap of theiors using lava, or be killed by place lava down. But it would be nice :)

MXM48

Re: Lava should placable on your own plots.
« Reply #2 on: 21 Jul 2012, 15:55:56 »
If players cannot place lava, they should at least ask the admins to do it for them. Its ridiculous that you have to work with the lava that is already spawned

danniel1998

Re: Lava should placable on your own plots.
« Reply #3 on: 21 Jul 2012, 17:21:12 »
Even if you can only place it in your plot there is still the risk of, as masterrbc has already said, traps and other ways of killing people with lava. Also there is the problem with if there is a spillage of lava and it goes in areas not wanted, then people would have to clean it up.

GrizzShark

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« Reply #4 on: 21 Jul 2012, 19:25:48 »
I can see both sides, but I imagine if stone generators are allowed, people would just stay logged into MC with a weight on their mouse all day to level their mining skill. And that would kinda kill the mining statistics. It's not very impressive to see who could leave their computer on for the longest.

dartflames

Re: Lava should placable on your own plots.
« Reply #5 on: 21 Jul 2012, 20:21:02 »
Well to prevent the mining for being exploited there could an auto kick where if u stand in the same place for like 15 mins u get auto kicked. Usually people who play don't stay in the same spot for more than a minute. Also I was thinking there could be like a warning of where lava has been placed like it would pop up and if mods or admins r curious they are entitled to an answer. Personally I find lava should be usable besides using it as fuel.

INEEDANAME1564

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« Reply #6 on: 21 Jul 2012, 20:35:58 »
If players cannot place lava, they should at least ask the admins to do it for them...

The admins are busy enough as is, they certainly do not need to be running around doing errands for players just so they can have lava, and the fact that it could be used for possibly doing harm.



Halikar

Re: Lava should placable on your own plots.
« Reply #7 on: 21 Jul 2012, 21:04:36 »
I originally voted that Lava should be placable, as grievers will find ways to grieve no matter what the restrictions are and it's more reliable to just deal with them directly than limit their tools. Then I heard a mod in game mention that lava grieving can cause damage that takes a lot of time to clean up, such as having it escape a plot into the town, onto other plots, etc. Meaning that clean up just from accidents can take the time and impact a lot of people. Factor in grieving, and I can see why there is the restriction. So I'm changing my vote to not allowing it. :)

MXM48

Re: Lava should placable on your own plots.
« Reply #8 on: 22 Jul 2012, 07:26:21 »
Many people do not have any intention of using it for griefing. Also, lava shouldnt be allowed in towns were there can be accidents. If a person owns a towny why not allow that person to place lava inside thier own area?

dartflames

Re: Lava should placable on your own plots.
« Reply #9 on: 23 Jul 2012, 05:47:39 »
Couldnt mods just rollback the griefers actions before he or she even began? Also as I was saying before when lava is placed a warning should prompt in the chat showing the coordinates of where the lava was placed and who it was placed by. Mods could just check up from time to time to see if they r doing anything funny with the lava.

danniel1998

Re: Lava should placable on your own plots.
« Reply #10 on: 23 Jul 2012, 10:10:49 »
Why should Mods have to waste their time clearing up lava griefs, spillages etc. when they could be doing more important errands? Lava was blocked because it is a popular griefing tool. Without people being able to place lava there are no major lava griefs. There's just no need to add the use of lava placing. Also, I don't even think Mods can place lava (correct me if I'm wrong), meaning you'd have to get the attention of an Admin to do it, which is very unlikely as they are busy most of the time they are online.

ItsLawrence

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« Reply #11 on: 23 Jul 2012, 15:12:23 »
I'll clear this up for you all now. For the foreseeable future lava will not be allowed anywhere in any of our worlds, this is not only an anti-griefing, but also as an anti-killing method. We would receive more moaning about griefing and deaths/lost items that we do currently get about the lack of lava. It doesn't matter if it is in your own plot because it can still be used for killing and griefing neighbouring plots/areas.

Lava is not easy to clean up even using our griefing reversal tools because it spreads and sticks to blocks which are near it. Thus we don't allow it.

If you were that interested in getting cobblestone you could easily go into our mining world and simply mine and mine a massive area and you would quickly get cobble. Or if you were really that bothered, you could fine a nice spot of natural lava and make a generator out of that.

ben501

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« Reply #12 on: 24 Jul 2012, 16:56:48 »
I made a cobblestone generator out of lava that i found under my house in Blackthorn (I ask a moderator before creating it) it took me some time and I burn at least 5 times but it is possible to make a cobble generator. As for the the lava and all that, well Lava is only good for creating cobblestone or obsidian and as a fuel in your furnace but its useless (unless you want to grief or simply kill players).

So it would be better if we leave the lava rule as it is. Although it would be a good idea if Mods could place the lava for good reasons

terrencethethird

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« Reply #13 on: 24 Jul 2012, 17:35:56 »
its more hassle for mayors and TA's when clearing plots...

AlphaTango11

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« Reply #14 on: 4 Aug 2012, 03:52:38 »
My view on this is that the only "good" thing Lava can be used for is Generators. Cobblestone generators are pointless, as Lawrence said, there is a Mining World that has more Cobblestone than anyone could ever need.

Lava could also be collected in the Nether, but is still pointless due to the fact above.

FoxBGM

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« Reply #15 on: 16 Aug 2012, 19:01:45 »
I have already had neighbor's water spill onto my plot, lava spreads further than water...i can see bad things....

((to the neighbor in question, still not mad, it was funny but important to compare to lava i think)

-Burai

dartflames

Re: Lava should placable on your own plots.
« Reply #16 on: 8 Sep 2012, 01:19:53 »
Wow, im amazed about how much activity this forum topic got although I can clearly see that placable lava aint happening. I got a bunch of cobblestone from mining world anyways searching for emerald like a madman.
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