Lava (Read 9086 times)

clash99 · « **on:** 6 Feb 2012, 15:01:28 »

PLZ bring back lava its not right that you guys already banned fire but don't bann lava.If you guys keep taking away the exciting things slowly one by one people will start to leave.I know you guys don't want griefers but some things must be risked to have fun.

Jayjay36 · « **Reply #1 on:** 6 Feb 2012, 15:45:50 »

~~Lava has been removed for ages~~ :S, what would you need it for anyway?

danniel1998 · « **Reply #2 on:** 6 Feb 2012, 16:18:01 »

Quote from: clash99 on 6 Feb 2012, 15:01:28

If you guys keep taking away the exciting things slowly one by one people will start to leave.

That is where you are wrong, lava is not exciting it just causes more and more griefs. If the Noobstown staff decided to make lava usable then the number of griefing incidents will rise dramatically as lava is an essential tool for a griefer. If you desperately want lava, perhaps try asking an Admin, then they will come over and see what you are using it for.

Licksterboy · « **Reply #3 on:** 6 Feb 2012, 20:19:44 »

Lava has been taken out recently, if I am not mistaken. It was taken out because like danniel said, it has been used to not only grief structures but kill people as well. The only option we had was to ban lava. If I recall, not even I am able to place lava anymore, which is strange because I was able to use some just a few days ago. Anyways, for now lava and fire are banned items.

nickolas927 · « **Reply #4 on:** 7 Feb 2012, 06:55:47 »

well you see with the removal of fire and mods having to be part of the town to light things for that town, it's ahrd to make fireplaces and other things, so i had found out about a secondary way of fire that dosnt burn nor harm, it only required lava to light a minecart for a moment, which i tried to do recently, but then such disappointment happened... i do know why you would remove lava but please nerf everything, if you could, can you at least enable fire but not it spreading? fire is easy to put out if it dosnt spread and people can get the large torchs or fireplaces they like and want.

Foob · « **Reply #5 on:** 7 Feb 2012, 07:41:59 »

Lava was removed because of griefers pouring buckets on a players to kill them. I will look into re-enabling fire as its not as dangerous but with spread turned off.

Licksterboy: Sorry it says edited by Lick, I meant to hit quote...

MatsukaAtsushi · « **Reply #6 on:** 7 Feb 2012, 08:01:29 »

I am going to build tower of Barad Dur (Sauron's tower) and to do the eye part would require lava. Can a mod do that part for me when the time comes? Actually I might use netherrack and fire also. lol

clash99 · « **Reply #7 on:** 7 Feb 2012, 19:04:24 »

But lava is the only cool liquid yes its used as a wepon but thats what makes it cool.I really want lava even if its destructuve its essential

Jayjay36 · « **Reply #8 on:** 7 Feb 2012, 20:08:28 »

Quote from: clash99 on 7 Feb 2012, 19:04:24

But lava is the only cool liquid yes its used as a wepon but thats what makes it cool.I really want lava even if its destructuve its essential

It's not essential :S, It's just water, but a light source version and harms people. If fire is getting enabled, I guess it's alright for it to be nerfed, but lave can't be nerfed and will continue to be used inappropriately.

Licksterboy · « **Reply #9 on:** 7 Feb 2012, 20:54:16 »

Quote from: MatsukaAtsushi on 7 Feb 2012, 08:01:29

I am going to build tower of Barad Dur (Sauron's tower) and to do the eye part would require lava. Can a mod do that part for me when the time comes? Actually I might use netherrack and fire also. lol

I think that would be fine, except mods are not allowed to use lava, I would ask an admin, I think lava will turn into a thing like fire has where you have to ask for it to be used, then a staff member will decide if it should be used depending on what you want to use it for.

ChinaneChinane · « **Reply #10 on:** 7 Feb 2012, 20:54:45 »

i know i miss lava too, but people would grief/kill with it so... we just gonna have to leave it

Licksterboy · « **Reply #11 on:** 7 Feb 2012, 20:56:49 »

Quote from: Fatnoob on 7 Feb 2012, 07:41:59

Lava was removed because of griefers pouring buckets on a players to kill them. I will look into re-enabling fire as its not as dangerous but with spread turned off.

Licksterboy: Sorry it says edited by Lick, I meant to hit quote...

I just realized that fire is not so bad of a thing as long as you keep the fire spread off, except it can be used to kill people and wouldn't people be able to light their own nether portals? Unless of course there is a way to cut a lighting of a nether portal off too.

nickolas927 · « **Reply #12 on:** 8 Feb 2012, 13:41:38 »

not to mention lava plays a key role in cobblestone generators

Jayjay36 · « **Reply #13 on:** 8 Feb 2012, 14:15:08 »

Quote from: nickolas927 on 8 Feb 2012, 13:41:38

not to mention lava plays a key role in cobblestone generators

That's true..

nickolas927 · « **Reply #14 on:** 8 Feb 2012, 18:00:20 »

Angel_Lord · « **Reply #15 on:** 8 Feb 2012, 22:46:40 »

Quote from: nickolas927 on 8 Feb 2012, 18:00:20

lindatjuh · « **Reply #16 on:** 9 Feb 2012, 08:40:39 »

kawaii

nickolas927 · « **Reply #17 on:** 9 Feb 2012, 13:05:52 »

Quote from: Angel_lord on 8 Feb 2012, 22:46:40

Quote from: nickolas927 on 8 Feb 2012, 18:00:20

clash99 · « **Reply #18 on:** 9 Feb 2012, 18:58:35 »

I'd serious like fire or lava enabled because then we can make fire places
but
lava's cool for mob traps,cobblestone generators,incenerator,(mob and item) eraser and moats

Fire's great for portals,fireplaces

Can u guys just consider lava even with its destructive fource its also useful for players and griefers

danniel1998 · « **Reply #19 on:** 9 Feb 2012, 20:56:38 »

If fire spread is off then could people light portals or not? Because if you can then you may need to consider the fact that you removed fire to stop portals being lit thus creating lag on the server.

bad_german · « **Reply #20 on:** 9 Feb 2012, 22:34:30 »

Would it be possible to allow lava only in towns? (where we autoheal and pvp is off) Since that is the primary place people would be legitimately using lava.

Sure it could be dangerous, but only to the extent that people are misusing it. How many players were using lava to grief compared to those using it for lighting/cobble/mobgrinders.

I know it's a headache to have to deal with offenders, (I've been admin on other sites), but i'm under the impression there are always going to be tradeoffs and I'd like to encourage the admins here to consider carefully the tradeoff of people's enjoyment of the game being less hindered and the time/effort it takes to deal with offenders.

Regards,

hchambers · « **Reply #21 on:** 9 Feb 2012, 22:55:18 »

Quote from: bad_german on 9 Feb 2012, 22:34:30

Would it be possible to allow lava only in towns? (where we autoheal and pvp is off) Since that is the primary place people would be legitimately using lava.

Sure it could be dangerous, but only to the extent that people are misusing it. How many players were using lava to grief compared to those using it for lighting/cobble/mobgrinders.

I know it's a headache to have to deal with offenders, (I've been admin on other sites), but i'm under the impression there are always going to be tradeoffs and I'd like to encourage the admins here to consider carefully the tradeoff of people's enjoyment of the game being less hindered and the time/effort it takes to deal with offenders.

I agree 100% with this method of dealing with the issue.
Regards,

clash99 · « **Reply #22 on:** 10 Feb 2012, 17:15:07 »

Yeah thats what i'm trying to say thx German and i need to talk to u when u get on just look for me

Geoboy66 · « **Reply #23 on:** 11 Feb 2012, 03:42:11 »

Clash I completely respect that your opinion on lava being cool and awesome. And you are completely right it is awesome, I've made castles with big bridges running across motes of lava and it looks badass. Although I hope you can understand it is dangerous and potentially a hazard to other peoples belongings. Lava and Fire have been disabled and re-enabled for a long long time now and our player base is just fine.

tyja · « **Reply #24 on:** 13 Feb 2012, 22:14:21 »

Quote from: danniel1998 on 9 Feb 2012, 20:56:38

If fire spread is off then could people light portals or not? Because if you can then you may need to consider the fact that you removed fire to stop portals being lit thus creating lag on the server.

If fire spread is off, you cant light portals.