Locking threads?

[Hyperspacechewy]

So I've been thinking that we need some forum rules. If were bringing up topics from multiple months ago, to add on that does not make sense. Here are rules that I've came up with or borrowed.
1. Can not post on thread if last post is 3 weeks or more. This means that the latest information is always being used, and were not bumping threads randomly.
2. Only the OP can bump, and they can only bump one. This means that only the original poster can bump their thread once per thread, making it so people cant come and comment if the thread is old.
3. The original poster has 2 months to bump a thread, or the thread becomes locked.
4. If not following these guidelines go up to 5 points. At 5 points you get forum banned.
Sorry if this thread seems harsh, but in order to grow, we need to focus on the present, and this way, it would make the forums a lot more organized. Suggestions to improve on? I was thinking about a quote limit but idk on that one.

[Panemophobic]

For some reason I fell like this topic is mainly for me XD

1. Can not post on thread if last post is 3 weeks or more. This means that the latest information is always being used, and were not bumping threads randomly.

Myabe if it's changed to: Do not post on threads more then 2 months since the last post unless the thread is still relevant

2. Only the OP can bump, and they can only bump one. This means that only the original poster can bump their thread once per thread, making it so people cant come and comment if the thread is old.

Only being able to bump once? No, maybe not being able to bump saaayy... 3 Times in a row

3. The original poster has 2 months to bump a thread, or the thread becomes locked.

That seems reasonable

Sorry if this thread seems harsh, but in order to grow, we need to focus on the present, and this way, it would make the forums a lot more organized.

It does seem a bit harsh

I was thinking about a quote limit but idk on that one.

DEFINITELY not especially looking at this post


Plus there is already Technically a forum rules: www.noobscraft.com/server/server-rules-12420/ if you take a good look it's both forum and server rules... I do see what you mean though

[Powerage_]

I don't really seem why this needs to be a thing. In my opinion we don't really have any issue with any of this.
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[mrfloris]

The admin can decide which threads need to remain public, need to be removed, or locked. I guess.

I like some of the suggestions though. On XenForo we have this plugin that lets us get a red box before you reply saying either a- your msg is really short, you sure you want to post this, might be considered spam, or b- This threads is over 3 months old, you sure you want to bump old threads? with a checkbox - this lets ppl rewrite what they have, or reconsider what they post. Keeps it kinda clean.

[Hyperspacechewy]

I like that idea floris. I really didn't know how best to implement this, but a warning would be nice. And to addressing diamond, it never mentions when a thread needs to be closed. If there any thread closing rules, then old topics may come up. Maybe if we have different rules for sections? So town rules last longer than noobstown generals? And other never closes?

[mrfloris]

I like that idea floris. I really didn't know how best to implement this, but a warning would be nice. And to addressing diamond, it never mentions when a thread needs to be closed. If there any thread closing rules, then old topics may come up. Maybe if we have different rules for sections? So town rules last longer than noobstown generals? And other never closes?

It's not up to me to decide a thread by other people can or have to be closed. People can apply restrain and not bump threads that are older than 6+ months or whatever. It's not that hard.

I close my own threads, when I believe it's run its course or if the info in it has expired.

[Hyperspacechewy]

Dont really understand that last post floris. Could you elaborate?

[Panemophobic]

You are now going to see another reason why I don't like the idea of a quote limit.

a- your msg is really short, you sure you want to post this, might be considered spam, or b- This threads is over 3 months old, you sure you want to bump old threads? with a checkbox - this lets ppl rewrite what they have, or reconsider what they post. Keeps it kinda clean.

Is this not already a thing? Isn't there a message saying that your posting on an old thread? Or is that just me...

it never mentions when a thread needs to be closed. If there any thread closing rules, then old topics may come up.

I do believe there are thread closing rules they're just not mentioned...

Maybe if we have different rules for sections? So town rules last longer than noobstown generals? And other never closes?

Don't really see the point in that, it's same as what I in my earlier post as long as the thread is still relevant...

People can apply restrain and not bump threads that are older than 6+ months or whatever. It's not that hard.

Plus it's not like people need to bump old threads unless what their saying is relevant...

I close my own threads, when I believe it's run its course or if the info in it has expired.

I have noticed that you do that

In my opinion we don't really have any issue with any of this.

We don't do we

[Hyperspacechewy]

We kinda do. For example, I've seen people bump 3 months plus threads. Even if it is relevant just make a new one
 Noobstowns staff is great and finishing issues that may come up. And no, theres no message for too old or too little. Different threads may have different amounts of relevance depending what it is. Suggestions may be more updated over other, making old suggestions needing to be closed off.

[Panemophobic]

Next time can you use quotes or at least separate the different things you want to say, it makes things a lot less confusing.

Even if it is relevant just make a new one

No sometimes making a new thread would be confusing, sometimes it wouldn't be depending on the thread

And no, theres no message for too old or too little.

Yep there is, go see for yourself just go to a thread over 4 months old and click "reply" then you should see a little red box saying: "Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days.
Unless you're sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic. "

Different threads may have different amounts of relevance depending what it is. Suggestions may be more updated over other, making old suggestions needing to be closed off.

Yes and it'd be on the person who posted to decide the relevance if it's not relevant the thread get's locked

[Hyperspacechewy]

Next time can you use quotes or at least separate the different things you want to say, it makes things a lot less confusing.
No sometimes making a new thread would be confusing, sometimes it wouldn't be depending on the thread
Yep there is, go see for yourself just go to a thread over 4 months old and click "reply" then you should see a little red box saying: "Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days.
Unless you're sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic. "
Yes and it'd be on the person who posted to decide the relevance if it's not relevant the thread get's locked

To hard to quote on phone so whatever. Anyways, the OP may forget to lock the thread, so some random person just comes by and posts on it.

[Panemophobic]

To hard to quote on phone so whatever.

Then can you not separate them?

Anyways, the OP may forget to lock the thread, so some random person just comes by and posts on it.

Then that's the OP's fault.

[Hyperspacechewy]

Well this way, the op is no longer at fault. I'm sure theres a way to code into the website that after a certain amount of time, the thread locks. And for warnings, staff would just do that.

[Panemophobic]

I'm sure theres a way to code into the website that after a certain amount of time, the thread locks. And for warnings, staff would just do that.

I'm sure that there would be a way to code it, but it just isn't needed, I mean how often do you REALLY see people bump really old (and irrelevant) threads?

[Hyperspacechewy]

Tbh, at least once every two weeks.

[Panemophobic]

Tbh, at least once every two weeks.

Really? I don't. And if your talking about me... I only post on old threads if they're still "relevant" or at least that's what I try to do...

[Hyperspacechewy]

In that case it depends what relevant means to the person, and what it means to the person or may not mean to the community.

[Panemophobic]

In that case it depends what relevant means to the person, and what it means to the person or may not mean to the community.

Then as to what I said earlier if the staff doesn't think the thread is relevant the thread gets locked

[Hyperspacechewy]

But then it requires staff to look at it, and proceed to lock it, which I currently dont see happening. And at that point, different staff could have different votes on what's relevant, then locking and unlocking the thread.

[Panemophobic]

But then it requires staff to look at it, and proceed to lock it, which I currently dont see happening.

Wut. In that case that means the staff are too LAZY to lock it which I do not believe is the case.

And at that point, different staff could have different votes on what's relevant, then locking and unlocking the thread.

Then it would be what the majority of the staff vote?

[mrfloris]

Wut. In that case that means the staff are too LAZY to lock it which I do not believe is the case.
Then it would be what the majority of the staff vote?

You two are now having a discussion that the staff should be having, not players.
Suggestion is posted, arguments on both sides are shared

We get it ..

[ItsLawrence]

So I've been thinking that we need some forum rules. If were bringing up topics from multiple months ago, to add on that does not make sense.
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We used to have some explicitly set separate forum rules, but it was determined they weren't that useful since forum etiquette is pretty easy/standard, and if we had any big issues we could go and talk directly to those involved; as such they were removed several years ago now.

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Here are rules that I've came up with or borrowed.
1. Can not post on thread if last post is 3 weeks or more. This means that the latest information is always being used, and were not bumping threads randomly.
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As Diamondpuppy808 pointed out, if you go to make a reply to a topic over 120 days old it'll warn you asking if you really want to do so.

I don't personally see a problem with people bringing old topics back to life as long as it's a relevant reply. I'm not sure if you've noticed issues, but it's extremely rare people bring really old topics back to the front?

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2. Only the OP can bump, and they can only bump one. This means that only the original poster can bump their thread once per thread, making it so people cant come and comment if the thread is old.
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I'd prefer people to avoid bumping all together, but if it brings it to the front then it is potentially useful; as I can sometimes miss things where people are waiting for a reply from me. Again as above as long as it makes sense I don't mind others bringing topics up again if they're waiting for a reply.

I don't like people double posting (replying immediately after they've just posted a reply, without someone else responding in between) but there is a limit at which point you can edit previous posts, so sometimes it makes sense. I have warned many people for doing this when it makes sense to do so.

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3. The original poster has 2 months to bump a thread, or the thread becomes locked.
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I'm not too sure what we'd gain from doing this, if it's relevant to bring up topics again then I see no problem with it. What is gained from forcing people to make new topics about potentially the same thing again and again? If the reply is completely unrelated then we'll intervene and either split the topic up or remove the reply and potentially inform the incorrect poster.

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4. If not following these guidelines go up to 5 points. At 5 points you get forum banned.
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The site has a warning system which does get used as appropriate if people are clearly abusing things or not following logical etiquette. It's extremely unlikely to happen, but once you reach a certain level in that your access/ability to do certain things is restricted.

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Sorry if this thread seems harsh, but in order to grow, we need to focus on the present, and this way, it would make the forums a lot more organized.
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I'm open to any constructive comments or ideas. I don't however feel like we've really got issues with the site forum being overly disorganised as it is right now, do things feel disorganised to you, if so what parts, do you have any examples?

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I was thinking about a quote limit but idk on that one.

The site will already limit automatic quoting to one quote deep, so unless you specifically go out of your way to do it, it won't automatically create horrible quote chains where each quote contains the previous quote etc.

[Panemophobic]

You two are now having a discussion that the staff should be having, not players.

Ahh... sorry

The site will already limit automatic quoting to one quote deep, so unless you specifically go out of your way to do it, it won't automatically create horrible quote chains where each quote contains the previous quote etc.

Oh so I can't do things like this?:

I was doing that to make things look organised