Unexpected Sad News! (Read 26865 times)

AlbatrosV5 · « **Reply #50 on:** 24 Oct 2013, 19:00:17 »

Quote from: ummfredfelizco on 24 Oct 2013, 18:19:38

- ...Talk to a real life person! xD

Real persons? Won't they bite?

sombrerodude · « **Reply #51 on:** 24 Oct 2013, 19:14:36 »

Quote from: AlbatrosV5 on 24 Oct 2013, 19:00:17

Quote from: ummfredfelizco on 24 Oct 2013, 18:19:38
- ...Talk to a real life person! xD
Real persons? Won't they bite?

Only when I am hungry

86maxsmart · « **Reply #52 on:** 24 Oct 2013, 19:55:16 »

Quote from: sombrerodude on 24 Oct 2013, 19:14:36

Quote from: AlbatrosV5 on 24 Oct 2013, 19:00:17
Quote from: ummfredfelizco on 24 Oct 2013, 18:19:38
- ...Talk to a real life person! xD
Real persons? Won't they bite?
Only when I am hungry

You're real?

AlbatrosV5 · « **Reply #53 on:** 24 Oct 2013, 20:57:25 »

Quote from: 86MaxSmart on 24 Oct 2013, 19:55:16

Quote from: sombrerodude on 24 Oct 2013, 19:14:36
Quote from: AlbatrosV5 on 24 Oct 2013, 19:00:17
Quote from: ummfredfelizco on 24 Oct 2013, 18:19:38
- ...Talk to a real life person! xD
Real persons? Won't they bite?
Only when I am hungry
You're real?

Don't look into his eyes, it might provoke him. Carefully move back now - ok slowly - now close the door! I told you not to go outside! There are persons out there and you know that reality is not good for you!

HappyDance9 · « **Reply #54 on:** 24 Oct 2013, 21:04:28 »

Awwh

I wish I could play again. So if 1.7 comes out? Atleast take some time to play atleast a month of noobstown because we will miss Noobween D:

However, if we stay open until Mid November, then you can update the server to 1.7, ready for Mid December for Noobmas. This is the most logical idea that may seem suitable.

Furthermore, I have been looking forward to play this, but unfortunately we cannot as 1.7 came out (I wish Mojang would take time to look into popular servers and their update schedeules).

In conclusion, Its nice to keep us updated, thank you Fatnoob, and the rest of the NoobCraft Community.

Yours truly,

HappyDance9, with faith, love, hope and care

Dopehead_NL · « **Reply #55 on:** 24 Oct 2013, 21:46:28 »

I apreciate the feedback Joe, thank you.
Lets agree that we disagree, and celibrate that we live in a world where we can.
You call the shots and I don't envy you for having to do so.
Hope to see you soon on V6 !

Olah0001 · « **Reply #56 on:** 24 Oct 2013, 23:08:33 »

is it just me or does anyone else not feel like joining v6 ?

Reigando · « **Reply #57 on:** 24 Oct 2013, 23:25:09 »

Quote from: Dmonemac95 on 24 Oct 2013, 16:51:10

We are not customers, even those of us who donate. If we were customers, "donating" would not be called "donating".

When you pay money and receive something in return, you are a customer. If you just gave money purely because you wanted to help the server and received no sort of compensation for said money, then you're just a donater not a customer.

I often buy the humble bundle because I like that the money goes to charity, but I'm still buying the games, I'm still a customer. It's not philanthropy when you get something in return.

86maxsmart · « **Reply #58 on:** 24 Oct 2013, 23:40:15 »

Quote from: Olah0001 on 24 Oct 2013, 23:08:33

is it just me or does anyone else not feel like joining v6 ?

All depends on the final details regarding wilderness land. I couldn't care less about anything else. Those details will determine whether I will continue to be regular player or not.

Max

AlbatrosV5 · « **Reply #59 on:** 24 Oct 2013, 23:48:16 »

Quote from: Fatnoob on 24 Oct 2013, 17:49:07

By releasing in 1.6.4 we'd still have to work towards the 1.7 update anyway, because we can't stay on 1.6.4 forever then we'd have test everything for 1.7 and then the server would be up and down again. This would not only spoil the experience of v6 but cause you to have further delays when starting your new homes or towns it wouldn't work. We'd prefer to work for a steady 1.7 release with everything fully supported and then it can be left up for the entire Christmas holidays.

Additionally opening now with 1.6.4 would mean that the V6(1.6.4)server could probably not include the 11 new 1.7 biomes (and their new blocks) like Savannah (Acacia wood), Mesa (red sand and naturally occuring coloured hardened clay), MegaTaiga (Podzol blocks and naturally occuring mossy stone) roofed forest (dark oak wood), spiked Ice (packed ice), ... So we would miss out a good chance to find a nice first home in one of those biomes.
And of course we would miss out on those 9 new flowers for all the gardeners and the stained glass for the designers here too.
To me waiting a little longer for a fresh release in 1.7 seems way better than waiting for a later upgrade and all the new stuff untill December (and maybe having to move everything to a new biome then because I find a nicer spot there).

Apart from that updating a server that already has gone live in 1.6.4 to 1.7 should be way riskier in regard of glitches (especially in the biomes) than already releasing it in the correct new version 1.7 without those update glitches.

Noobsween can simply be moved to November. I'm afraid one event is not really worth the technical trouble for the admins and the inconvenience of additional downtimes for us players later on (that would be caused by the later upgrade).

And honestly, I believe that many of the people that are now annoyed by this delay would also be annoyed by the alternative long downtime for a later upgrade for 1.7 as well

. So I guess in that regard the admins couldn't make right for some people

@Olah0001: It's a free world, if you choose to not join v6 because of a reasonable delay that is your good right. But as far as I know many of the longer-playing people here I doubt many will accompany on that lonely quest.

Just hang in there, judging from the improvements in the last versions V6 will definitely be worth it.

@Reigando/Dmonemac95: Even if someone see himself as customer he would have agreed to their terms of use on purchase. And those are quite water~~worth~~proof in regard of downtimes or changes of availability. So the question wheter it's a donation or a customer's purchase is not really relevant.

Reigando · « **Reply #60 on:** 25 Oct 2013, 02:07:55 »

Quote from: 86MaxSmart on 24 Oct 2013, 23:40:15

Quote from: Olah0001 on 24 Oct 2013, 23:08:33
is it just me or does anyone else not feel like joining v6 ?

All depends on the final details regarding wilderness land. I couldn't care less about anything else. Those details will determine whether I will continue to be regular player or not.

Max

This.

Nosaj544 · « **Reply #61 on:** 25 Oct 2013, 04:28:21 »

Good things take patience. I look forward to seeing 1.7's improved features make V6 all the better.

gamergirlxo · « **Reply #62 on:** 25 Oct 2013, 05:28:18 »

Quote from: Olah0001 on 24 Oct 2013, 23:08:33

is it just me or does anyone else not feel like joining v6 ?

I agree that this news sucks but that doesn't mean we should give up on the server. This isn't the admins decision....they wanted to release V6 tomorrow like everyone else did....it just so happens that Mojang does this all the time....releases a new version when a new event/release for Noobscraft is about to happen. We're so close to finally getting V6 that it's simply not a reason for us to give up. Personally, I understand the situation they've been placed in and see why they made the decision they did and I for one do not intend on giving up on this server. I have had too many great memories and made too many wonderful friends to give up just because something was pushed back for another week or two.

Bexn · « **Reply #63 on:** 25 Oct 2013, 07:11:32 »

I'm gonna be honest here, anyone wanting to leave the server because of this specific announcement isn't truly devoted to the server. You aren't paying for this server, unless you're donating, and even then you're paying for it because you want to, not because you HAVE to. Show some gratitude people.

First off, the Staff Team, most notably the Admins, all have busy lives. All of the current moderators and admins are either busy fathers or are in college (which for those who have never been to college before, takes up a great deal of time for most students). Try to see where they're coming from. College is pretty much like a full time job, and so is parenting.

Second, this time, it was out of the control of the admins. Mojang is releasing a new major update (emphasis on the MAJOR, as this is the largest patch in the history of the game). If the server were released last weekend as planned, all of the new content, especially the new biomes, wouldn't be there and probably would NEVER be there until another major update. Additionally, they're creating CUSTOM plugins. These aren't just server plugins that they can just download and set up in a matter of hours, they're literally creating programs from the ground up, which can take days, even weeks to complete. And because 1.7 is arriving soon, there's no way that these plugins could be completed alongside the new release.

All I ask is that some of you read between the lines and actually see why it's taking so long. These things aren't simple. At all.

sunnycat10 · « **Reply #64 on:** 25 Oct 2013, 11:46:29 »

Quote from: Bexn on 25 Oct 2013, 07:11:32

I'm gonna be honest here, anyone wanting to leave the server because of this specific announcement isn't truly devoted to the server. You aren't paying for this server, unless you're donating, and even then you're paying for it because you want to, not because you HAVE to. Show some gratitude people.

First off, the Staff Team, most notably the Admins, all have busy lives. All of the current moderators and admins are either busy fathers or are in college (which for those who have never been to college before, takes up a great deal of time for most students). Try to see where they're coming from. College is pretty much like a full time job, and so is parenting.

Second, this time, it was out of the control of the admins. Mojang is releasing a new major update (emphasis on the MAJOR, as this is the largest patch in the history of the game). If the server were released last weekend as planned, all of the new content, especially the new biomes, wouldn't be there and probably would NEVER be there until another major update. Additionally, they're creating CUSTOM plugins. These aren't just server plugins that they can just download and set up in a matter of hours, they're literally creating programs from the ground up, which can take days, even weeks to complete. And because 1.7 is arriving soon, there's no way that these plugins could be completed alongside the new release.

All I ask is that some of you read between the lines and actually see why it's taking so long. These things aren't simple. At all.

I agree with your first point, BUT the second one is just not right, yes its not completely the admins fault but they should know that 1.7 is coming out soon, if there are snapshots of 1.7, then its meaning that the new version is close to release, so i don`t understand why the admins make post that V6 will released today, if they know that soon 1.7 be out, and they will need to take the server back to maintenance after the 1.7 release.

MagicMan27 · « **Reply #65 on:** 25 Oct 2013, 14:24:17 »

Just thought I'd mention this, on teamspeak Lawrence stated that the worlds were generated in the snapshots so they already had the new biomes in them.

Darkwings · « **Reply #66 on:** 25 Oct 2013, 14:45:59 »

Quote from: sunnycat10 on 25 Oct 2013, 11:46:29

I agree with your first point, BUT the second one is just not right, yes its not completely the admins fault but they should know that 1.7 is coming out soon, if there are snapshots of 1.7, then its meaning that the new version is close to release, so i don`t understand why the admins make post that V6 will released today, if they know that soon 1.7 be out, and they will need to take the server back to maintenance after the 1.7 release.

You don't have the slightest idea of what you're talking about.

They can't run the server AND update it at the same time.
They couldn't release V6 earlier because they didn't have time to do it (and they're doing it for free)
They surely guessed 1.7 was coming out... and? Should they have obtained stable 1.7 code before Mojang even released it?

Updating a living server would mean having to waste time double-checking for world generation problems, corruption, ruined builds, etc.

They did what's best in terms of efficiency given the resources they had. Stop whining.

DH4CFC · « **Reply #67 on:** 25 Oct 2013, 14:51:58 »

I am going to be honest i am getting bored of all of this can people just be patient and wait it is getting on my nerves..

86maxsmart · « **Reply #68 on:** 25 Oct 2013, 16:43:15 »

No need to talk down to people like that Darkwings. DH4CFC, if you are bored, I suggest you do or read something else. As long as the posts aren't rude, people should have a right to voice their opinion, especially those who have donated. This is a forum afterall.

Max

Miner_man123456 · « **Reply #69 on:** 25 Oct 2013, 17:43:40 »

Everyone complaining about V6 being delayed just simply has to find something else to take up their time, not sit around and wait, cause that is very pointless, cause you're pretty much sitting their doing nothing, which isn't good for you, go outside, play other games, something that may take up your time, and maybe get your mind off V6, it isn't that hard to do so.

I understand some might not have the option to do much else, but sitting here on the forum, complaining almost every day, or saying things like Olah0001 did "is it just me or does anyone else not feel like joining v6 ?", is not needed and wont get you anywhere, if you don't want to join V6, go ahead, nobody is stopping you, but you would have wasted a good deal of your time waiting for it, so the point of quiting now is very small.

That is all I had to say.

sunnycat10 · « **Reply #70 on:** 25 Oct 2013, 18:43:34 »

Quote from: Darkwings on 25 Oct 2013, 14:45:59

Quote from: sunnycat10 on 25 Oct 2013, 11:46:29
I agree with your first point, BUT the second one is just not right, yes its not completely the admins fault but they should know that 1.7 is coming out soon, if there are snapshots of 1.7, then its meaning that the new version is close to release, so i don`t understand why the admins make post that V6 will released today, if they know that soon 1.7 be out, and they will need to take the server back to maintenance after the 1.7 release.

You don't have the slightest idea of what you're talking about.

They can't run the server AND update it at the same time.
They couldn't release V6 earlier because they didn't have time to do it (and they're doing it for free)
They surely guessed 1.7 was coming out... and? Should they have obtained stable 1.7 code before Mojang even released it?

Updating a living server would mean having to waste time double-checking for world generation problems, corruption, ruined builds, etc.

They did what's best in terms of efficiency given the resources they had. Stop whining.

Well, listen, i say that i have NO problem to wait more time (even if V6 will be out in next summer), and that i don`t see the point why THEY WANTED to release V6 in 1.6 when they knew that 1.7 soon will be outand they will need to update it again.
So next time, please before commenting against something that never have been wrote by me, READ the whole comment...

DH4CFC · « **Reply #71 on:** 25 Oct 2013, 18:48:34 »

Quote from: Miner_man123456 on 25 Oct 2013, 17:43:40

Everyone complaining about V6 being delayed just simply has to find something else to take up their time, not sit around and wait, cause that is very pointless, cause you're pretty much sitting their doing nothing, which isn't good for you, go outside, play other games, something that may take up your time, and maybe get your mind off V6, it isn't that hard to do so.

I understand some might not have the option to do much else, but sitting here on the forum, complaining almost every day, or saying things like Olah0001 did "is it just me or does anyone else not feel like joining v6 ?", is not needed and wont get you anywhere, if you don't want to join V6, go ahead, nobody is stopping you, but you would have wasted a good deal of your time waiting for it, so the point of quiting now is very small.

That is all I had to say.

what miner said...

daniel_blackwood · « **Reply #72 on:** 25 Oct 2013, 19:28:39 »

Quote from: sunnycat10 on 25 Oct 2013, 18:43:34

Quote from: Darkwings on 25 Oct 2013, 14:45:59
Quote from: sunnycat10 on 25 Oct 2013, 11:46:29
I agree with your first point, BUT the second one is just not right, yes its not completely the admins fault but they should know that 1.7 is coming out soon, if there are snapshots of 1.7, then its meaning that the new version is close to release, so i don`t understand why the admins make post that V6 will released today, if they know that soon 1.7 be out, and they will need to take the server back to maintenance after the 1.7 release.

You don't have the slightest idea of what you're talking about.

They can't run the server AND update it at the same time.
They couldn't release V6 earlier because they didn't have time to do it (and they're doing it for free)
They surely guessed 1.7 was coming out... and? Should they have obtained stable 1.7 code before Mojang even released it?

Updating a living server would mean having to waste time double-checking for world generation problems, corruption, ruined builds, etc.

They did what's best in terms of efficiency given the resources they had. Stop whining.
Well, listen, i say that i have NO problem to wait more time (even if V6 will be out in next summer), and that i don`t see the point why THEY WANTED to release V6 in 1.6 when they knew that 1.7 soon will be outand they will need to update it again.
So next time, please before commenting against something that never have been wrote by me, READ the whole comment...

Sunny, the thing is, there is like, ALWAYS a new version of minecraft being previewed and worked on. I mean, they start working on the next version as soon as they release the last one, and they put out snapshots very early and very often. So yes, they knew 1.7 was coming out, we ALL did, the issue was just predicting WHEN it would officially be announced/released, and you just know that if they had assumed that 1.7 would be released and started working on it (how i don't know) then it would have turned out that 1.7 won't be released until like, january or something. Murphy's law. And then we would still be waiting and we would miss Noobmas as well. And that would not be fun

Reigando · « **Reply #73 on:** 25 Oct 2013, 19:51:58 »

Quote from: Darkwings on 25 Oct 2013, 14:45:59

Quote from: sunnycat10 on 25 Oct 2013, 11:46:29
I agree with your first point, BUT the second one is just not right, yes its not completely the admins fault but they should know that 1.7 is coming out soon, if there are snapshots of 1.7, then its meaning that the new version is close to release, so i don`t understand why the admins make post that V6 will released today, if they know that soon 1.7 be out, and they will need to take the server back to maintenance after the 1.7 release.

You don't have the slightest idea of what you're talking about.

They can't run the server AND update it at the same time.
They couldn't release V6 earlier because they didn't have time to do it (and they're doing it for free)
They surely guessed 1.7 was coming out... and? Should they have obtained stable 1.7 code before Mojang even released it?

Updating a living server would mean having to waste time double-checking for world generation problems, corruption, ruined builds, etc.

They did what's best in terms of efficiency given the resources they had. Stop whining.

It's not that hard to duplicate a server and then work on that to test your new potentially world-breaking coding. So yes, you can work on a server and run it at the same time.

Jayjay36 · « **Reply #74 on:** 25 Oct 2013, 20:05:48 »

Quote from: Reigando on 25 Oct 2013, 19:51:58

Quote from: Darkwings on 25 Oct 2013, 14:45:59
Quote from: sunnycat10 on 25 Oct 2013, 11:46:29
I agree with your first point, BUT the second one is just not right, yes its not completely the admins fault but they should know that 1.7 is coming out soon, if there are snapshots of 1.7, then its meaning that the new version is close to release, so i don`t understand why the admins make post that V6 will released today, if they know that soon 1.7 be out, and they will need to take the server back to maintenance after the 1.7 release.

You don't have the slightest idea of what you're talking about.

They can't run the server AND update it at the same time.
They couldn't release V6 earlier because they didn't have time to do it (and they're doing it for free)
They surely guessed 1.7 was coming out... and? Should they have obtained stable 1.7 code before Mojang even released it?

Updating a living server would mean having to waste time double-checking for world generation problems, corruption, ruined builds, etc.

They did what's best in terms of efficiency given the resources they had. Stop whining.

It's not that hard to duplicate a server and then work on that to test your new potentially world-breaking coding. So yes, you can work on a server and run it at the same time.

I don't think you recognize the shear size of the server, the map alone is memory busting, imagine having to import it every few days after they'd fixed some bugs, it just isn't convenient. Oh and where is the sense in letting people play the bugged version whilst they fixed it on another database? Like, that's the whole point.. they don't want anything exploitable or rule breaking to be released, they want a nice clean start to v6 with minimal problems to fix.

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