Griefing?  (Read 1949 times)

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Faroutdudes5

Griefing?
« on: 4 May 2012, 12:56:51 »
Say, you are in the wilderness, you place a fence down and separate an area off. Is it technically griefing if someone goes inside the fence, and destroys the grass or other natural land portions? Saying that, the person hopped over the fence via other blocks being placed nearby. Just wondering.

danniel1998

Re: Griefing?
« Reply #1 on: 4 May 2012, 15:20:35 »
Destroying something that isn't owned by you is considered griefing. So in your situation, the person that destroyed the fence and started defacing the landscape that you will be using in the future is considered griefing in my opinion.

Faroutdudes5

Re: Griefing?
« Reply #2 on: 5 May 2012, 07:34:07 »
But they didn't destroy the fence. All they did was place a block next to it, hopped over it, and destroyed an area that you claim, however this area is naturally placed blocks, trees and other things.

danniel1998

Re: Griefing?
« Reply #3 on: 5 May 2012, 09:47:30 »
Still, if you are going to be using the area later on then I'd class it as griefing, certainly as you've fenced the area off.

Faroutdudes5

Re: Griefing?
« Reply #4 on: 5 May 2012, 12:00:20 »
Ah. Sometimes I worry. I just hope the mods and admins think the same. ^_^ :3

Jayjay36

Re: Griefing?
« Reply #5 on: 5 May 2012, 12:12:58 »
Some people would class it as griefing, I wouldn't. I know it was pretty much claimed since you placed the fence there, but they only took generated blocks, right? Maybe you could put a sign up telling people not to build or destroy there.

Licksterboy

Re: Griefing?
« Reply #6 on: 6 May 2012, 01:19:26 »
I would have to agree with danniel, if you placed fence around an area, why would you place fence around items that are okay to be taken? It is considered griefing if you destroy another player's items, it sounds like to me if someone placed fence around items, they do not want those items taken.

Jayjay36

Re: Griefing?
« Reply #7 on: 6 May 2012, 12:59:11 »
I would have to agree with danniel, if you placed fence around an area, why would you place fence around items that are okay to be taken? It is considered griefing if you destroy another player's items, it sounds like to me if someone placed fence around items, they do not want those items taken.
You're totally right, but you also need to take in to mind that this server attracts a lot of new people, not only to the server, but new to Minecraft.  I have a guy in my town that's literally only 3 days old in Minecraft terms. If it was a common player of Noobstown that trespassed then I'd totally agree with you, but not in this situation. When you first joined Minecraft, didn't you want to explore everywhere?

danniel1998

Re: Griefing?
« Reply #8 on: 6 May 2012, 14:53:34 »
It shouldn't matter about the experience of the player. The rules are no griefing. This is considered griefing because they are destroying something that isn't claimed to be theirs. Every guest has a chance to read the rules and acknowledge them for their playing on the server. If they know that it's griefing they wouldn't do it. I agree with you that people like to explore as they first join, but they can explore without griefing other peoples property. If they were puzzled as to what to do then they can ask for help instead of breaking into other peoples claimed land.

Jayjay36

Re: Griefing?
« Reply #9 on: 6 May 2012, 16:24:02 »
That's the whole point, they don't know anything, they could think griefing is only being rude to people. When I'm on a new server I travel until I'm nearly dead from hunger, I get to the closest tree and start crafting. I'd climb over a fence and destroy a tree if I needed to or dig in to the ground a little bit and wait until it's mid-day.

I doubt new comers would bother reading the rules because they want to get right in and join the community, I'm pretty sure you don't read 'all' the rules on 'every' server you've visited, nor even attempt to read the "terms of service" on every product you've bought or downloaded.

I think this topic should be locked because it's turning in to a needless discussion.

Jvanzant

Re: Griefing?
« Reply #10 on: 27 May 2012, 21:14:16 »
You know what would be nice if they just made the blocks you lay down lock like they do with signs! You put it down you pick it up! Or be able to lock your own blocks so the admins dont have to be bothered and the griefers can't grief!