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SammoBammo

When i die, my items disappear
« on: 3 Feb 2012, 23:27:39 »
I had diamond tools because im levelling land for a my town, and i died, and it disappeared. happens alot now to me

ItsLawrence

Re: When i die, my items disappear
« Reply #1 on: 3 Feb 2012, 23:56:43 »
This is Minecraft? It's how the game works? You die, there is a chance items are lost. This is a survival server, the point is if you don't want to lose an item, don't walk around near mobs with it, put it in a protected chest or place it on protected land.

People dying results in their items often getting lost, this is the game, there is nothing that can be done about it.

danniel1998

Re: When i die, my items disappear
« Reply #2 on: 4 Feb 2012, 09:08:20 »
This is exactly the issue that many of people have been putting forward, in my opinion there needs to be something done about it. Yes its fully obvious that this is a game, but if someone's items are in threat of being lost, it gets pretty frustrating when you do end up loosing them. The staff team are supposed to help people and make sure everyone is happy, this post does not seem like SammoBammo is happy. Even if it is a survival server it gets so annoying when you lose all your valuable items, and what if you want to fight mobs and then you lose them? You can't say:
Quote from: ItsLawrence on  3 Feb 2012, 23:56:43
don't walk around near mobs with it
In conclusion, all I'm basically trying to say is that there should be some way of refunding the items lost.

Licksterboy

Re: When i die, my items disappear
« Reply #3 on: 4 Feb 2012, 11:15:07 »
Quote from: danniel1998 on  4 Feb 2012, 09:08:20
This is exactly the issue that many of people have been putting forward, in my opinion there needs to be something done about it. Yes its fully obvious that this is a game, but if someone's items are in threat of being lost, it gets pretty frustrating when you do end up loosing them. The staff team are supposed to help people and make sure everyone is happy, this post does not seem like SammoBammo is happy. Even if it is a survival server it gets so annoying when you lose all your valuable items, and what if you want to fight mobs and then you lose them? You can't say:
Quote from: ItsLawrence on  3 Feb 2012, 23:56:43
don't walk around near mobs with it
In conclusion, all I'm basically trying to say is that there should be some way of refunding the items lost.
Danniel I understand what you are trying to say, for it happened to me several times before. The thing is that we can't always trust all of the players on the server, they might ask for an item that they didn't already have. :/ This is what minecraft is, that is what happens when you walk around mobs on this server, so you need to keep that in mind what is able to happen when you put yourself at that risk. Maybe you should make a post in the suggestion area if you really feel like something should be done about this. ;)

Jayjay36

Re: When i die, my items disappear
« Reply #4 on: 4 Feb 2012, 11:24:20 »
Quote from: danniel1998 on  4 Feb 2012, 09:08:20
This is exactly the issue that many of people have been putting forward, in my opinion there needs to be something done about it.

No Daniel, nothing needs to be done about it, If you can't play the game normally, don't play. Like someone said in the other post, Creepers explode in single player and that's why some items are left in the crater, and like I said, Creepers should be able to explode on the server, but they don't :/. Daniel, deal with it, that's how minecraft works. Would you complain to the server staff if you lost the stuff in single player just like you do in multiplayer? Nope, I'm sure you wouldn't. Licksters totally right within saying that not all players that loose items would tell the truth, therefor I disagree to people being re-funded.

danniel1998

Re: When i die, my items disappear
« Reply #5 on: 4 Feb 2012, 11:52:34 »
First off there are many ways of getting your items back in Single Player so no, I wouldn't complain to anyone?:S And this server should be full of people who are content and happy with the server but when they lose their valuable items, due to something they cant prevent, it gets very stressful and the stress on the player is unneeded, so yes something does need to be done about this.. and perhaps people may lie about losing stuff, but if they lie then they will most likely not even get the stuff returned, if I said 'I died and lost all my stuff, please can I have my 2 stacks of diamonds back?' you would obviously say no, because its not true, nor is it realistic.

Jayjay36

Re: When i die, my items disappear
« Reply #6 on: 4 Feb 2012, 13:30:33 »
Quote from: danniel1998 on  4 Feb 2012, 11:52:34
First off there are many ways of getting your items back in Single Player so no, I wouldn't complain to anyone?:S And this server should be full of people who are content and happy with the server but when they lose their valuable items, due to something they cant prevent, it gets very stressful and the stress on the player is unneeded, so yes something does need to be done about this.. and perhaps people may lie about losing stuff, but if they lie then they will most likely not even get the stuff returned, if I said 'I died and lost all my stuff, please can I have my 2 stacks of diamonds back?' you would obviously say no, because its not true, nor is it realistic.
That's where you're wrong. I was walking around with 2 stacks of diamonds and fell off a cliff, I found my way back to that spot and got my diamonds. Secondly the thing about single player wasn't serious, I was meaning that you can lose items because of Creeper explosions so why do you complain in multiplayer, your making such a big deal over something that originally happens in the game. Stop hassling the staff and go complain to Mojang. Oh, and by the way, you said "but if they lie then they will most likely not even get the stuff returned", that's when it comes down to trust, that's when it comes down to the staff deciding if you should be refunded or not. Say you were moving home and you have a diamond block and two gold blocks, you were also new to the server. A Creeper comes out of nowhere and destroys all your stuff, how do you explain it to the staff if no-one even recognizes you? You said it's unreal, but it certainly is not. Noobstown staff has chosen the right path to take by not refunding anyone in my opinion.

danniel1998

Re: When i die, my items disappear
« Reply #7 on: 4 Feb 2012, 13:49:58 »
Quote from: Jayjay36 on  4 Feb 2012, 13:30:33
your making such a big deal over something that originally happens in the game.
It can't be something that originally happens in the game if people have just started to complain about it, so you are wrong there.
And nobody is 'hassling' the Noobstown staff, they just want to feel safe in the server with no threat of losing all their valuable items.

Jayjay36

Re: When i die, my items disappear
« Reply #8 on: 4 Feb 2012, 19:09:13 »
Quote from: danniel1998 on  4 Feb 2012, 13:49:58
nobody is 'hassling' the Noobstown staff, they just want to feel safe in the server with no threat of losing all their valuable items.

nobody... You are. People want to feel safe in the server? Ahh is that right? Ok, you tell me how the staff can prevent this huh. No offence, but people should just leave if they're feeling as bad as your making it. man they must be annoyed, right? OH, that's why there's only a couple of posts about it -.- There's no need for this 'discussing' on this topic anymore, It's pointless because I know you're not going to let it go and you will keep to your whining regulations.


*Cough* I forgot to mention... Daniel, this is a survival server.

MatsukaAtsushi

Re: When i die, my items disappear
« Reply #9 on: 4 Feb 2012, 19:49:12 »
Maybe this server would benefit from a protected chest being created where you die and then you can recover your stuff from that chest? There's a plugin for it but I dunno what it's called. My last server had it. It was a life saver. :D

Jayjay36

Re: When i die, my items disappear
« Reply #10 on: 4 Feb 2012, 19:57:13 »
Quote from: MatsukaAtsushi on  4 Feb 2012, 19:49:12
Maybe this server would benefit from a protected chest being created where you die and then you can recover your stuff from that chest? There's a plugin for it but I dunno what it's called. My last server had it. It was a life saver. :D
I've seen that plugin somewhere :P It looked really good, but we've never had it here in NoobsCraft. You should maybe make a post about it for when the new February Update has passed because Joe is seeing which plugins that could be removed to prevent the server from getting lag and it would be pointless to add whilst trying to remove at the same time.

INEEDANAME1564

Re: When i die, my items disappear
« Reply #11 on: 4 Feb 2012, 20:16:41 »
Well, according to the topic discussion, it appears that our state on item refunds need to be reminded to the players on the server, so I shall state that here:

1: No Item Refunds
This is a survival server, there are no item refunds. I Have trouble understanding why this is not clear, I certanly know that some of you don't have a problem telling guests off that this is a survival server....
It is not our issue(most of the time) about how you died and lost your items, your still not going to get them back.
Any further 'I died and lost my stuff' topics will be locked if they don't have a very justified reason for it to stay unlocked.
If you can't handle the fact that your items might be in jeprody when your out and about on the server, I reccomend keeping them as safe as you can.


If you still think that that im wrong about this, fell free to pm me, but that is all I had to say

MatsukaAtsushi

Re: When i die, my items disappear
« Reply #12 on: 4 Feb 2012, 20:42:10 »
Quote from: Jayjay36 on  4 Feb 2012, 19:57:13
Quote from: MatsukaAtsushi on  4 Feb 2012, 19:49:12
Maybe this server would benefit from a protected chest being created where you die and then you can recover your stuff from that chest? There's a plugin for it but I dunno what it's called. My last server had it. It was a life saver. :D
I've seen that plugin somewhere :P It looked really good, but we've never had it here in NoobsCraft. You should maybe make a post about it for when the new February Update has passed because Joe is seeing which plugins that could be removed to prevent the server from getting lag and it would be pointless to add whilst trying to remove at the same time.
I think the chest thing actually reduces lag, that's why Protocraft put it in. Because rather than having an entire inventory on the ground, just makes a chest.

danniel1998

Re: When i die, my items disappear
« Reply #13 on: 4 Feb 2012, 20:58:15 »
I actually love that idea, it would reduce the amount of people complaining about losing all their items. :)

MatsukaAtsushi

Re: When i die, my items disappear
« Reply #14 on: 5 Feb 2012, 01:10:05 »
The only real problem is that it would significantly decrease the value of chests... but oh well, there could be worse things de-valued.

Jayjay36

Re: When i die, my items disappear
« Reply #15 on: 5 Feb 2012, 20:12:03 »
Quote from: danniel1998 on  4 Feb 2012, 13:49:58
It can't be something that originally happens in the game if people have just started to complain about it
Ohreally? Let's check if the well known minecrafters noticed?

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