Dragon approves of this message. (And good screenies by the way, I got to check on the town without getting on...sorta. XD )

Tax, Really? There is also a lot of restrictions.

The tax prevents the city from being deleted like it hapens all the time to other smaller cities, because it can actually financially break even by itself. Other cities migh have some of the longest-playing and richest players on the server to finance themselfes with a few peoples donations, but DragonFire is meant to carry itself, with donations being used to set up new players with new plots and other things they might need. There are also certain safetymechanisms that prevent you from losing your stuff when you run out of money (unless you don`t show up for several weeks, which is a common rule among many towns on the server).

And yes, there are regulations (without we could as well all build in the wilderness). If I`m not mistaken your city has some regulations as well and there are/were always regulations in KochiraKoso and other cities, too.
Most of the regulations simply have the use to prevent the surroundings of the city from looking like the moon after 2 weeks of strip mining and also to prevent the classic floating tree`s around.
There are of course also certain liberties and services. The townfarms are built to hold enough of every available cattle (including wolfes and cats) and the towns wheat-, melon-, pumpkin- and Cactifarms are big enouh that no resident has to "use" own plotspace for building an own farm. And speaking of plotspace, you`re allowed to own up to 4 plots from the beginning (the server doesn`t allow more than four per person).


I might also add that we actually postponed this "advertisment" after the fall of Oakhaven because we didn`t want to take any "survivors" away from Danniel and BlackThorn (we also offered supplies for the immediate rebuilding to be delievered on request, but these apparently weren`t needed). We even sent some "survivors" your way, but by now most of the returning former Oakhaven residents should have settled in and we are now again trying to recruit new residents among the servers newcommers.
We have no interest in any animosities or enticements and want to actually cooperate with the other towns so that all towns can prosper equally instead of joining some silly "we must be bigger then the others" competition.

Ah yes and one final piece of information, the Mayor and his two lovely TA-Ladys are all 18+ and have known each other for years, so the "towns goverment" actually has a deep level of mutual trust and stability.

(Of which I am highly disgusted to have happened and am immensely proud that those who were in it have risen despite the challenge and are thriving again.)

Quote from: TwistedLover on  8 Apr 2012, 07:32:12

-If you are offline more than two weeks your plots will be reset and taken from you to be resold.

uuhm thats kinda griefing
sometimes people are busy and cant come online for several weeks, and then you just take away all their stuff?
kinda harsh dont you think?

I agree with Linda. Technically, it is griefing because you are modifying their property that they have payed for without their permission. What happens when they go on holiday? What happens if there is family problems?

What happens if there computer suddenly stops working and have to get it sent away. That happened to me and didn't get my computer back until 4 weeks later? or of their internet stop working and there internet provider says it will be back on soon, but never is on

Well I personally would find some way to get on another computer (What are friends for if not for allowing you to use their computers? Or libraries? I know the libraries near me allow you to use computers for searching things. And using MC in the browser/getting on Noobscraft quickly to send a PM isn't that hard to do.) to inform people.

However if a person isn't able to tell us, like I said. We'll give them a plot as well as items to replace what was taken on their plot. Their items will also be in a locked chest that I personally locked so no random members will be able to get at them. I intend on creating a locked-chest room for different members below spawn for storage of such things.

I also intend on taking down plots myself if I can (If the plot is not intensely huge. One member created a huge hotel-tree that went up to the clouds it seemed like. However they were banned, so it was not much of a problem.) to further store all the building material I can in their locked chest.

I will not allow anyone to touch these chests until the person comes back on, if they ever do.

Edit-
After careful consideration Tidal and I have decided to do away with the 10-block limit. Dark78660 was the one to implement this rule, and we believe that it is far too restricting. Therefore all residents can build as high or as low as they want.

http://puu.sh/oWyt
http://puu.sh/oWyF
http://puu.sh/oWyS

As you can see, EmperorMyrf agrees with me that this is not griefing.

But as I've said. We don't take them down unless you've been gone two weeks, and only if you don't give notice that you're going to be gone.

We've only done this once or twice, and only to two people we knew were pretty much not coming back to the server. They'd found other servers and weren't going to bother with this one.

Tidal and I are pretty understanding. If we know the person and they've been somewhat active in the town we give them time. And even if we don't know them, we prefer to give the benefit of the doubt and wait to see if they'll come back. I intend on doing monthly checks on plots and players to see when a person was last active, so the two-week rule for me is really just a formality.

Quote from: TwistedLover on  8 Apr 2012, 07:32:12

-If you are offline more than two weeks your plots will be reset and taken from you to be resold.

uuhm thats kinda griefing
sometimes people are busy and cant come online for several weeks, and then you just take away all their stuff?
kinda harsh dont you think?
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and do know that its seen as griefing. aka a permanent ban.
maybe you should disguss this first with an admin before deciding and griefing peoples places.

I would be a little carefull with accusations that other cities are griefers.
It is exactly the same rule as Flintwood`s rule # 6 and Netherfrost`s "plotrule" # 3 is the same with 3 weeks.
To label several towns (all that have this rule) as griefers is actually a quite hard accusation and I would love to hear an admin or moderator state whether this is indeed deemed as griefing or if the rule fits the server guidelines and is part of a towns process to ensure an active community.
You might also want to talk to your own nations mayors, Lindatjuh. The other cities with this rule are in the nation you are ruling, so if you really see it as griefing you might want to change that in your own cities.


What we are doing is that even after reseting a plot we take every chest in the house and put it on hold for several weeks (you can see an actual case at our townspawn) so the owners really have several weeks to either claim their plot or later at least their plot back. How many other towns go that far?



And I completly agree with Tyja, it keeps people motivated. Think of some of the "old towns" were parts of the city are really nice to view but nobody lives there anymore.

And only because there is this rule it doesn`t mean it is always enforced. In many cases (fully built houses of active resident that suddenly drop dead) this rule will not be enforced by the TAs. But in cases where the new resident joined the town, started building a house and didn`t come back after his first 2 visits and leaves behind only a half finished house for several weeks, yes that plot might be cleared (and that would happen in many other towns to, even those we don`t officialy post such a rule.
If you look at our plotprices you will see that they are kinda cheap (which compensates the taxes for over a month compared with other new cities that have 2x the plotprice). Therefore we have a lot of people joining the town that are on the server for the first time (because they can afford joning us and most of them like the support they get to get started). Most of them stay of course and are now part of the server, but there are allways some that find other servers that better fit their needs and that disapper without a trace. They are the ones this rule was designed for.


XandrewX, I`m always eager to learn about other towns systems (and if there are good rules recommending them to our mayor) so I`m curious. What does your town do if someone for eaxmple buys 2 plots in your town, starts building there and then leaves the server without notice, leaving behind an unfinished building for several weeks. If you are not clearing that plot (because you seemed to apparently consider that wrong) how do you fix that problem in your town?

This sounds completely reasonable to me. Much more professional. Might get up early tomorrow and nip on before school to have a look.

Please do! And if myself or my TAs are not on at the time and you would like to join, just /mail either TidalMewMew, TwistedLover, or myself, and we'll make shure that we take care of you.

TidalMewmew has responded to your questions in global chat and twice invited you to town (residents can see the invitation in the chat). You didn`t accept the invitation each time, so it timed out.
The Invitations are shown in the chat, you might have overseen them.